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You are merely helpng to prove a point, that anything outside of your/their paradigm is wrong/questionable!
Refering to #105, I did not in fact "it was SC himself who belatedly came on the forum to justify his position", come on the Forum to "justify" anything! Justifying something would tend to suggest that there is something I felt needed "justifying"! Nothing could be further from the truth, and the post from AJ, is as loaded as it gets!!!
Adam, you say;I, too, emailed you, in February (the 5th to be precise) asking if you were prepared to stand again for the Party in the Durham County Council elections as you had done on many previous occasions (with my help in getting your manifestos printed at Head Office and sent to you) but got no reply. I am afraid that I can only conclude that your priority was to get elected as a local councillor but that you felt you had a better chance as a candidate of the Seaham Community Party than as a Socialist Party one. Sad, very sad, after 36 years as a staunch Socialist."I can only conclude that your priority was to get elected as a local councillor but that you felt you had a better chance as a candidate of the Seaham Community Party than as a Socialist Party one"So I changed the habit of my adult lifetime, to get "elected"!!! I think that you know that is totally untrue. Who in their right mind would take over 25 years of contesting elections (knowing the likelyhood of getting elected is virtually zero) then all of a sudden change to another platform just to get elected, not least an organisation that has existed for just over a year, and was challenging a Party (Labour), who have a 50+ years of unchallenged rule! Doesn't take a Marx to see the flaw in the "jumped ship for electoral success" accusation, does it?Alan Johnstone."But it seems even your new colleagues have difficulty in understanding your political stance, describing you as a "national socialist" "Alan, the quote you provide, is not from an SCP member, it was from someone I went to school with, who considers himself quite the smart arse! But nice try at inventing unsourced bollocks.Post 96 , I cannot get my head around at all. I never intentionally or otherwise "misled" anyone. You say "If you had resigned and stood as you claim as a spokes-person for your community, there would have been a healthy and fruitful debate and discussion of the situation. I, for one, may well have been one of your advocates. After all, i had already raised the issue of activity in parish councils on this forum before knowing of your participation in such.But now, i find myself one of your accusers of betraying the trust we place in all of our fellow members. Knowing my participation in Parish Councils Alan? Where, or when was this? Its never happened! My first Parish involvement was this one, so once again, where has this fabriction come from. You go on to say;But members were deprived of the opportunity in this particular instance by the unilateral actions of SC that demonstrated a lack of respect for his fellow members. I see no defence that deserves special consideration. I think it gives credence to those members who opposed approving his re-membership being sceptical of pledges of good behaviour in the future could be relied upon. Why are you once again trawling over past events? WTF does that have to do with the present? I got re-instated as a member because, if you care to remember, I did nothing to merit not being allowed membership!So where does that leave us? A couple of members stating untruths, one of them even trawling up past events and holding it in their fist like the lightning of Zeus. Yet another member revealing a "Dog Shite Fetish"The truth is, that decisions have already been made as to "innocence" or "guilt", all the hand wringing is so much effluvia!One final word, those who "know" me, know I am and always will be a Socialist. Members of the Party who disagree. have their right to this opinion but they are wrong. Yes, I have had issues with members over the years but no one has ever doubted my Socialist credentials, until now!As I always say, life isn't a popularity contest, I'm not, nor ever have courted popularity, just as well, as I'd have been on a bust in The Socialist Party. I am happy in my own skin and if I even thought for a second I had done anything against my life long principles, I would hold my hand up, but I do not!Stevie C
Actually Tim, I did not decide to stand for the SCP until the end of March, beginning of April 2017. As opposed to Adam's view I never even new of the existence of the SCP until the beginning of March 2017. By the 25th of April, I had more important thingson my mind, a second MI and another 3 days in hospital. Kind of focuses ones mind!Anyway, forget about self justification, I'll repeat my statement, I am in the SCP for myself and the other folk of Seaham. I couldn't give a tinkers cuss about any other parties, IE Haswell, North East party etc etc. I couldn't care less what congrats were sent to whom, or when! We are a collection of individual residents and as such, I do not answer to them, nor them to me. As long as when we are in the Couincil Meetings, our total focus is on Seagham and its residents, that does me fine.As for hints of the possibilist agenda, never even crossed my mind. What you deem as a "pay cut", would only apply to councillors, their allowances and their perks.I was informed by a couple of the Party members already in situ, that the only way to stand as a collection of individuals to oppose Labour was to stand as a Party! I couldn't give a flying fuck if we had been a "Farty Party", a residents collective or whatever else you, or anyone else cares to imagine, it is a Party in name only, for convenience only!!!Finally Tim and I hesitate to broach the subject but don't you think you should get some professional help for your "Dog Shite Fetish"? just thought I'd mention it.
By the by, whether you believe it or not, Eileen, nor Vincent nor anyone else knew of the SCP until after the fact, so you can all drop the McCarthyite witch hunt, it does you a disservice and no credit.
Immplicated in what, pray tell? "Socialist joins non-political group of local people to oppose a Labour Council, to concerned with themselves and their self-image, to care about the community"!That, in a nutshell, is what this is/was about. For your further information, it was April of "this" year, not 2016, so it had not "been long planned", with or without telling anyone!In point of fact, I was one of those who would have resigned, supposing we had made a clean sweep of all seats, thus reducing the Councils bill for councillors expenses by 10, those being the number that would have stood down.Furthermore, if Seaham Community Party had any political leaning, I would not have given my support. Their one interest is Seaham and whats best for us all. It was/is a chance to democratise a Council, insofar as anything can be democratic in this Capitalist shit hole of a world.After being tipped off about posts on the Forum, regarding myself, I thought I would peruse them myself! What I have read are comments that do no service to those that have made them.No one on this forum has the right to question my Socialist credentials, no one. Nor from the Party at large. I am as much a Socialist now, as I was 36 years ago when I first joined The Party. I still put the case for Socialism at every possible oppurtunity, wheresoever I find myself.I am still the same Socialist who has written thousands of letters to the press, talked for hundreds of hours on local radio phone in programmes and assisted in delivering 10's of thousands of leaflets/manifestos over the years, as well as contesting elections on our behalf a couple of dozen times at least.If I had been involved with the initial setting up of the SCP (Seaham Community Party), I would have urged that they name change to the Seaham Community Action Group, but the action had already been taken on the name.I am not trying to say that all in the SCP are buddiong Socialists, they aren't but what they are, are ordinary folk, prepared to put their heads above the parapets and challenge the totally undemocratic Labour stranglehold on Seaham.If any of the above offends anyone, or if they cannot understand why I have done, what I have done, then know this, no one is more offended than myself, when I read the pathetic insults thrown my way!I have been on the "sharp end" of some insulting crap on here/spopen/spintcom in the past, but the recent comments take the biscuit.I am not a traitor, (how dare you call me that) to the case for Socialism. There is nothing contradictory in being a member of The Socialist Party and being involved in what is nothing more or less than a "local action group".If I had, (heaven forfend) joined Labour or SLP, even the Greens, the case would have been defenceless. As it is, I haven't and it is!!!At tomorrows EC meeting, I expect I will be charged with"action detrimental"! if I am, that will smell about as bad as the "revolutionary dog shite" Timothy Kilgallon enthuses over.Show the EC this post! Bring the charge, I will answer it but I have no intention of walking away from something I have given my entire adult life to (many times to the detriment of my own family), quietly.Yours Still Fraternally,Steve Colborn.
I like this, I really like this! Where do I send my order and the money? Well done, Steve Colborn.
While we are at this, I have no compunction in, once again saying, the latest Vin/Vid, is a good advert for our case.
Steven Colborn are you going to speak up about my honesty Well that at least, I can do, with a clear conscience. All of the time I've known Vin and it has been 35 yrs, he has put his own monies, time and effort, into the case for Socialism.As with all us members from that time, we "paid" to keep the Party case/the case for Socialism, going in the NE.
Vinny, trawl back over all the previous posts, you will find that I "did not" in fact mention MY problems, until quite recently, when you, turned this into a "pissing contest".Now getting back to the Forms F!!!!
Thats funny cos all this meeting is about one comrade calling the other in a PM but her is you saying it in public. A Hypocrit as well as treacherous and untrustworthy person Some of this, and I state "some" of this, is about unfounded accsations of cyber bullying against SP. Then you with your E Mail re SP!If you did not mean me to pass on a message to SP, why would you say, You know him better than I do but if he doesnt back off from Linda…….. That to me, means I should have a word with SP. By the way, most of this was said on a PM thread about a face to face meeting, that was sent to NERB comrades, so hardly "Private". And you know what you can do with the ridiculous accusations of, Hypocrysy, Treachery, Untrustworthyness, don't you? By the way, don't you have pressing issues of Form F's to be concentrating on?
I and linda have meds to take in fact she will probably be dead before you Listen Vin, this isn't a contest as to who takes the most meds, or who will croak it first. In fact, when you mentioned Harley being on, was the first time I new it. I said what I did, in an informative fashion but you turned it around!And no, I don't believe it when you state, "He probably disappeared from the cold response". Are you the head shit stirrer, you definitely sem to be trying to "stir" it!
Vin, I wasn't even on the Forum at the time of Harleys visit. I was, in actual fact, doing my physio and taking my meds.If I had been around, I would have greeted Harley. So what is your suggestion as to why I/we didn't say Hi?
Tim, I have already stood down as Chair!