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You are merely helpng to prove a point, that anything outside of your/their paradigm is wrong/questionable!
Refering to #105, I did not in fact "it was SC himself who belatedly came on the forum to justify his position", come on the Forum to "justify" anything! Justifying something would tend to suggest that there is something I felt needed "justifying"! Nothing could be further from the truth, and the post from AJ, is as loaded as it gets!!!
Adam, you say;I, too, emailed you, in February (the 5th to be precise) asking if you were prepared to stand again for the Party in the Durham County Council elections as you had done on many previous occasions (with my help in getting your manifestos printed at Head Office and sent to you) but got no reply. I am afraid that I can only conclude that your priority was to get elected as a local councillor but that you felt you had a better chance as a candidate of the Seaham Community Party than as a Socialist Party one. Sad, very sad, after 36 years as a staunch Socialist."I can only conclude that your priority was to get elected as a local councillor but that you felt you had a better chance as a candidate of the Seaham Community Party than as a Socialist Party one"So I changed the habit of my adult lifetime, to get "elected"!!! I think that you know that is totally untrue. Who in their right mind would take over 25 years of contesting elections (knowing the likelyhood of getting elected is virtually zero) then all of a sudden change to another platform just to get elected, not least an organisation that has existed for just over a year, and was challenging a Party (Labour), who have a 50+ years of unchallenged rule! Doesn't take a Marx to see the flaw in the "jumped ship for electoral success" accusation, does it?Alan Johnstone."But it seems even your new colleagues have difficulty in understanding your political stance, describing you as a "national socialist" "Alan, the quote you provide, is not from an SCP member, it was from someone I went to school with, who considers himself quite the smart arse! But nice try at inventing unsourced bollocks.Post 96 , I cannot get my head around at all. I never intentionally or otherwise "misled" anyone. You say "If you had resigned and stood as you claim as a spokes-person for your community, there would have been a healthy and fruitful debate and discussion of the situation. I, for one, may well have been one of your advocates. After all, i had already raised the issue of activity in parish councils on this forum before knowing of your participation in such.But now, i find myself one of your accusers of betraying the trust we place in all of our fellow members. Knowing my participation in Parish Councils Alan? Where, or when was this? Its never happened! My first Parish involvement was this one, so once again, where has this fabriction come from. You go on to say;But members were deprived of the opportunity in this particular instance by the unilateral actions of SC that demonstrated a lack of respect for his fellow members. I see no defence that deserves special consideration. I think it gives credence to those members who opposed approving his re-membership being sceptical of pledges of good behaviour in the future could be relied upon. Why are you once again trawling over past events? WTF does that have to do with the present? I got re-instated as a member because, if you care to remember, I did nothing to merit not being allowed membership!So where does that leave us? A couple of members stating untruths, one of them even trawling up past events and holding it in their fist like the lightning of Zeus. Yet another member revealing a "Dog Shite Fetish"The truth is, that decisions have already been made as to "innocence" or "guilt", all the hand wringing is so much effluvia!One final word, those who "know" me, know I am and always will be a Socialist. Members of the Party who disagree. have their right to this opinion but they are wrong. Yes, I have had issues with members over the years but no one has ever doubted my Socialist credentials, until now!As I always say, life isn't a popularity contest, I'm not, nor ever have courted popularity, just as well, as I'd have been on a bust in The Socialist Party. I am happy in my own skin and if I even thought for a second I had done anything against my life long principles, I would hold my hand up, but I do not!Stevie C
Actually Tim, I did not decide to stand for the SCP until the end of March, beginning of April 2017. As opposed to Adam's view I never even new of the existence of the SCP until the beginning of March 2017. By the 25th of April, I had more important thingson my mind, a second MI and another 3 days in hospital. Kind of focuses ones mind!Anyway, forget about self justification, I'll repeat my statement, I am in the SCP for myself and the other folk of Seaham. I couldn't give a tinkers cuss about any other parties, IE Haswell, North East party etc etc. I couldn't care less what congrats were sent to whom, or when! We are a collection of individual residents and as such, I do not answer to them, nor them to me. As long as when we are in the Couincil Meetings, our total focus is on Seagham and its residents, that does me fine.As for hints of the possibilist agenda, never even crossed my mind. What you deem as a "pay cut", would only apply to councillors, their allowances and their perks.I was informed by a couple of the Party members already in situ, that the only way to stand as a collection of individuals to oppose Labour was to stand as a Party! I couldn't give a flying fuck if we had been a "Farty Party", a residents collective or whatever else you, or anyone else cares to imagine, it is a Party in name only, for convenience only!!!Finally Tim and I hesitate to broach the subject but don't you think you should get some professional help for your "Dog Shite Fetish"? just thought I'd mention it.
By the by, whether you believe it or not, Eileen, nor Vincent nor anyone else knew of the SCP until after the fact, so you can all drop the McCarthyite witch hunt, it does you a disservice and no credit.
Immplicated in what, pray tell? "Socialist joins non-political group of local people to oppose a Labour Council, to concerned with themselves and their self-image, to care about the community"!That, in a nutshell, is what this is/was about. For your further information, it was April of "this" year, not 2016, so it had not "been long planned", with or without telling anyone!In point of fact, I was one of those who would have resigned, supposing we had made a clean sweep of all seats, thus reducing the Councils bill for councillors expenses by 10, those being the number that would have stood down.Furthermore, if Seaham Community Party had any political leaning, I would not have given my support. Their one interest is Seaham and whats best for us all. It was/is a chance to democratise a Council, insofar as anything can be democratic in this Capitalist shit hole of a world.After being tipped off about posts on the Forum, regarding myself, I thought I would peruse them myself! What I have read are comments that do no service to those that have made them.No one on this forum has the right to question my Socialist credentials, no one. Nor from the Party at large. I am as much a Socialist now, as I was 36 years ago when I first joined The Party. I still put the case for Socialism at every possible oppurtunity, wheresoever I find myself.I am still the same Socialist who has written thousands of letters to the press, talked for hundreds of hours on local radio phone in programmes and assisted in delivering 10's of thousands of leaflets/manifestos over the years, as well as contesting elections on our behalf a couple of dozen times at least.If I had been involved with the initial setting up of the SCP (Seaham Community Party), I would have urged that they name change to the Seaham Community Action Group, but the action had already been taken on the name.I am not trying to say that all in the SCP are buddiong Socialists, they aren't but what they are, are ordinary folk, prepared to put their heads above the parapets and challenge the totally undemocratic Labour stranglehold on Seaham.If any of the above offends anyone, or if they cannot understand why I have done, what I have done, then know this, no one is more offended than myself, when I read the pathetic insults thrown my way!I have been on the "sharp end" of some insulting crap on here/spopen/spintcom in the past, but the recent comments take the biscuit.I am not a traitor, (how dare you call me that) to the case for Socialism. There is nothing contradictory in being a member of The Socialist Party and being involved in what is nothing more or less than a "local action group".If I had, (heaven forfend) joined Labour or SLP, even the Greens, the case would have been defenceless. As it is, I haven't and it is!!!At tomorrows EC meeting, I expect I will be charged with"action detrimental"! if I am, that will smell about as bad as the "revolutionary dog shite" Timothy Kilgallon enthuses over.Show the EC this post! Bring the charge, I will answer it but I have no intention of walking away from something I have given my entire adult life to (many times to the detriment of my own family), quietly.Yours Still Fraternally,Steve Colborn.
I like this, I really like this! Where do I send my order and the money? Well done, Steve Colborn.
"Nothing against you cde Colborn, good friend. In fact I agree with you but literally havent got the balls to repeat it lol "I've already said it Linda! I don't need to repeat myself. Everyone knows, or should by now, of my opinions. I have not abandoned Vin, as my comment proves, but was not meant as a "post as proof". I agree with SP, and Tim, that we need to approach this issue as a Branch and no, that does not mean we, as a Branch, are cow-towing to anyone, nor abandoning anyone, either.Lets get the face-to-face meeting sorted and come to a unified position and then, we can move forward together! Remember, the Branch is the "Unit of organisation" of the Party, we need to use that position of "strength" and do nothing to encumber it!!! Steve.
I'm afraid that the IC are, from my perspective, acting like a bunch of East German Stazi agents. This is not and I will restate "not" the Party I first joined in 1981. ver the last few years, because of a parcity of members and particularly in the domain of "Computer Literacy, IE competent Computer programming knowledge, a nod has been given and undue sway, to a certain few individuals, that the Party appears afraid of "offending". In this atmosphere, I am ashamed of the current narrative, so should all Socialists/Democrats. We do ourselves no favours indeed, we do ourselves and our movement a disservice, by the current shenanigans.It is as if, anyone should "dare" to raise an objection to, to my mind objectionable practices, then this is a challenge to an untouchable "elite", well, as a Socialist for 35 years, I am used to taking on "untouchable elites".This is wrong! That only a few, if any, are raising objections, is a sad indictment on how far we have fallen!!!Steve Colborn.
Spintcom, spopen are used, if at all, by the meerest, teensiest bit of the membership of the SPGB. Mainly those who are purveyors of, or agree with, the dictats of an unrepresentative, tiny minority, of the party membership!So as you see, an irrelevance from my perspective. More irrelevant still, as one or two members of the Party, without prior warning/warnings, can suspend a fellow Socialists from all posting privileges forthwith and with little, or no comeback upon themselves!!!Its like to me, the narratives our Capitalist opponents have insinuated into the collective consciousness of, scrounging benefit claimants, malingering disabled and all the other guff this engenders!I don't believe that BS, I certainly do not believe the "narrative" numpty moderators of spintcom/spopen are pushing!!!!
Is this the IC that have previous?
The above, post 57 is, to my mind, short sharp and to the point.
It would be an irrelevancy to have a "Twitter" account that operates solely and only to make announcements re Party activity! Just goes to show some folk are, or would appear to be, clueless as to the uses of some social media. What is a Tweet? Short, sharp and to the point, is what it is and short, sharp and to the point about the shit in Capitalism and "OUR" alternative, Socialism.Compare and contrast in a Tweet!!!