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Jeremiah 19:5 says: “They have built the high places of Baal to burn their children in the fire as offerings to Baal—something I did not command or mention, nor did it enter my mind”
Jeremiah 32:35
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35 They built high places for Baal in the Valley of Ben Hinnom to sacrifice their sons and daughters to Molek, though I never commanded—nor did it enter my mind—that they should do such a detestable thing and so make Judah sin.2 Kings 16:3
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3 He followed the ways of the kings of Israel and even sacrificed his son in the fire, engaging in the detestable practices of the nations the Lord had driven out before the Israelites.https://thekingsbible.com/Concordance
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Anything about the Bible can be found in this biblical commentary
:: https://mhc.thekingsbible.comIn his Commentary on the Whole Bible, Matthew Henry fiercely condemns Jewish sacrifices to Baal, viewing them as the absolute pinnacle of spiritual apostasy and moral depravity.
He analyses these rituals through several key historical and prophetic events: Child Sacrifices in the Valley of Hinnom. Commenting on Jeremiah 19:5, Henry addresses the historical reality of Jews building high places to “burn their sons with fire for burnt offerings unto Baal”.
He notes that this practice was a hideous violation of natural affection and divine law. Henry highlights God’s explicit declaration that child sacrifice was something He “commanded not… neither came it into my mind,” emphasising that God completely disowns such cruelty.
Self-Mutilation and False Worship (1 Kings 18: )Reviewing Elijah’s confrontation with the prophets of Baal on Mount Carmel, Henry focuses on the frantic nature of Baal worship. He points out that Baal’s worshippers cut themselves with knives until blood gushed out.
Henry comments that Satan is a tyrannical master who delights in the physical torment and literal blood of his followers, contrasting this with the peaceful, rational worship required by God. The Just Retribution: Henry links the Jews’ horrific rituals to their ultimate downfall.
Commenting on Jeremiah 19:9, he observes a grim divine irony: because the Jews willingly sacrificed and burned their own children to Baal in times of peace, God justly punished them during the Babylonian siege, forcing them into such extreme famine that they resorted to eating their own children.Would you like to examine Matthew Henry’s specific commentary on Elijah and the prophets of Baal, or look into how he compares Baal worship to Molech?
The Jews also made human sacrifices to Baal. Prophet Jeremiah condemned human sacrifice made by the Jews.
Jeremiah 19:5: Jeremiah explicitly accuses the people of Judah of building high places to Baal and burning their children in the fire as burnt offerings.
Jeremiah 32:35: Mentions the high places of Baal in the Valley of Ben-Hinnom where they offered their sons and daughters to Molech, showing a frequent overlap in the text between these idolatrous rituals.
2 Kings 16:3 & 21:6: Record that specific kings of Judah, such as Ahaz and Manasseh, “passed their son through the fire,” mimicking the detestable ways of the nations.Psalms 106:37–38:
Laments that the Israelites shed innocent blood by sacrificing their sons and daughters to the idols of Canaan.
Context in Ancient Israel: Strict Prohibition: The Torah strictly forbade human sacrifice, prescribing severe religious and legal punishments for anyone who gave their children to fiery rites (e.g., Leviticus 18:21). Prophetic Condemnation: The biblical narrative presents child sacrifice not as an authorised part of Yahweh’s worship, but as a severe corruption and apostasy into which the kings and people fell when they copied neighbouring pagan.
It is later prohibited in the Torah, but several prophets mentioned it in the Bible. I know the Bible from the first page until the last one, and I have biblical commentary, specially Mathew Henry, where he mentioned human sacrifice
The eucharistic is an old pagan tradition of anthropophagia, of eating meat and drinking blood. Still, in some places, they are drinking turtles’ blood as an aphrodisiac.
Stone altars were a central and defining feature of Mithraism, an ancient Roman mystery religion dedicated to the god Mithras.
These altars sat at the focal point of underground or windowless temples known as mithraea, where military members and initiates gathered for secret rituals.
The altar typically showed Mithras killing a sacred bull. Solar Symbols: Carvings often included the sun god Sol, ravens, lions, and symbols of light or the cosmos.
Roman soldiers and commanders frequently dedicated these stone monuments to fulfil vows or honour the god.
Worshippers gathered around the altar in dim light, often illuminated by torches or backlighting through carved stone.
Troops placed these altars across the Roman Empire, from Rome all the way to frontier posts in Britain and Scotland, to seek protection and strength.
Abrahms used an altar to sacrifice his son. Yahev is a god that loves killing.
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https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/holbach/index.htm. Holbach wrote about the bible and Jesus————————————————————————-
Mithras is traced back to the Persians, and the altars come from the Persians. The Jewish religion is completely pagan or gentile
—————————————————–Ancient Persians practised animal sacrifice. Historical records—such as the Persepolis administrative texts and accounts by the Greek writer Herodotus—show that early Persian empires performed ritual animal slaughter (like horses, cattle, and sheep) to honour deities and share sacrificial meals .
During the Achaemenid period, livestock was routinely provided for religious ceremonies and state-backed ritual distributions.
Ancient historians noted that Persian priests (the Magi) performed various ritual acts, though some Greek accounts also exaggerated or misunderstood their daily customs regarding the killing of living creatures.
Over time, mainstream Zoroastrianism shifted focus toward bloodless rituals, prioritising prayers, fire, and plant offerings like haoma. However, ritual animal sacrifice persisted in some regional Iranian traditions well into the Islamic era before largely fading out.
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Where did you read that Paul had syphilis and took hashish and opium? Isn’t he unknown for the most part and just a pseudonym used by the authors of the epistles?
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https://ateismoparacristianos.blogspot.com/2011/02/pablo-y-sus-posibles-enfermedades-jesus.htmlCongenital syphilis or gout: the treatment for both was hashish and opium, and later they used mercury. The diseases are in my Robbins pathology book, and they are ancient diseases.
Gout is a painful type of inflammatory arthritis.
It happens when too much uric acid builds up in the blood and forms sharp crystals in the joints.
It most often hits the joint at the base of the big toe, causing sudden, intense pain, swelling, and redness.
Intense joint pain that often starts at night; swelling, warmth, and redness in the joint; trouble moving the joint normallyLumps under the skin (called tophi) in long-term cases
Causes and Triggers: High uric acid levels (hyperuricemia), diets high in purines, such as red meat, seafood, and alcohol (especially beer), medical conditions like high blood pressure, diabetes, obesity, and kidney disease, certain medicines like water pills (diuretics)
Paul’s sting
Syphilis is an ancient disease caused by the bacterium Treponema pallidum.
Genetic and archaeological evidence shows strains of the family existed in human populations thousands of years before the famous 1495 European outbreak. History and Origins:
DNA evidence from ancient human remains pushes the timeline of the pathogen back thousands of years across multiple continents.
The 1495 outbreak: A major, severe epidemic swept through Europe starting around 1494–1495 during the French invasion of Naples, Italy. Naming the disease: People blamed neighbouring nations for the outbreak, calling it names like “the French pox” or “the Spanish sickness”.
The Italian poet Girolamo Fracastoro coined the name “syphilis” in 1930 after a mythical shepherd.
Early treatments: For centuries, doctors used toxic treatments like mercury to treat the infection with little success.
Penicillin was discovered in 1928 and became the standard, effective cure by the 1940s
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Do we know for certain that children were sacrificed to Baal, as in Carthage, or could that be Roman propaganda? Why would a society kill its children in large numbers?————————————————————————————————
https://armstronginstitute.org/1182-the-tophet-where-israelites-sacrificed-their-children
The problem with this analysis is that Judaism copied more of its principles from the Gentiles; in Canaan, they worshipped more than 30 pagans deities, and in other parts of the Middle East,t they also copied the traditions and rituals of pagans. The Ten Commandments existed 1500 years before they appeared in the Torah, and the Psalms are poems from the Egyptians. Yahaev is a pagan god. There were Gentiles as the Gentiles. The Rosicrucian book on the cosmos is similar to Genesis. They sacrificed their children to Baal, which was a pagan religious practice
Pauline antinomianism would coalesce in the 17th-century personality of the Dutch psychopath Jeronimus Cornelisz, for whom it became a personal philosophy. He organised the mass murder of his fellow travellers on the ship Batavia. Bodies are even now still being found.
—————————————————————————————————————–https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/epilepsy/symptoms-causes/syc-20350093. Epilepsy produces psychopathic behaviours, and he suffered from Epilepsy
https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/syphilis/symptoms-causes/syc-20351756. The only treatment at that time for syphilis was hashish or opium, and both produced hallucinations and mental disorders. For Lenin, they used mercury, and it is poisonous
Vladimir Lenin was treated with mercury because his doctors suspected he had neurosyphilis, a severe bacterial infection of the nervous system. In the early 1920s, mercury- and arsenic-based drugs were the global standard of care for syphilis before the discovery of penicillin
This Spanish website has exposed all the lies and distortions published by Paul and all the mysteries about his life and how the catholic and Evangelical churches have disseminated all his lies.
Many commentaries show that people believe his lies and distortions even though everything has been proven with historical and archaeological evidence.
Some historians have also said that he never existed, that he is one of the theological inventions of the catholics and Evangelicals; most Christian churches are Paulinists.
Besides syphilis, he suffered from Epilepsy; he was not a Hebrew; he was Syrian, his mother was Syrian, and his family was from the Herodian family. Faith alone contradicts the letter of James.
In James 2:14-26, the biblical writer James states that “faith without works is dead” and that a person is justified by works and “not by faith only”.
He argues that true internal belief naturally produces visible, helpful actions toward others.
James’s Teaching: Dead Faith: Faith that only exists as an idea or spoken words without action is lifeless and useless.
James notes that even demons believe God exists and tremble, but that intellectual belief does not save them.
If a person is hungry or cold, simply telling them “good luck” without giving them food or clothes shows that the spoken faith is hollow.
Muslims generally do not support or accept the Apostle Paul as an authority or prophet.
Islamic theology views Paul critically, holding him responsible for shifting the teachings of Jesus away from strict monotheism and adherence to Mosaic law.
The Quran does not mention Paul by name. While some classical exegetes linked a passing reference in Surah Ya-Sin to early messengers that may have included Paul, he holds no prophetic status.
Muslims believe Jesus preached strict submission to God (Islam) and the continuation of God’s law.
They contend that Paul dismantled the law and introduced theological shifts like the divinity of Jesus, original sin, and salvation through faith alone.
Modern Islamic polemicists and scholars frequently describe Paul as the person who fundamentally altered the original message of Jesus (Isa) to create modern church dogma.
Paul of Tarsus is not mentioned by name in the Quran or authentic Hadith. However, in mainstream Islamic thought and modern Muslim polemics, Paul is widely viewed as a critical figure who “hijacked” or altered the original, pure monotheistic message of Jesus (Isa)
The “Corrupter”: Many classical and contemporary Muslim scholars hold that Paul shifted Christianity away from strict adherence to the Mosaic law and the strict human/prophetic nature of Jesus
Islamic teaching maintains that Jesus never claimed to be the Son of God or God incarnate. Critics argue Paul’s theology laid the groundwork for elevating Jesus’ status.
Islam rejects the concept of original sin and vicarious atonement (that Jesus died on the cross for humanity’s sins). Paul’s heavy emphasis on the cross is seen as a contradiction of the direct accountability taught by previous prophets.
Apologists argue Paul introduced antinomianism—cancelling dietary laws, circumcision, and strict adherence to the Torah—which went against Jesus’ own teachings to uphold the law. https://bliis.org/research/saint-paul-islam/
Scholars agree that the Apostle Paul did write several foundational letters of the New Testament, but modern research shows he did not write all 13 epistles attributed to him, often used secretaries (amanuenses), and sometimes faced later pseudonymous additions or interpolations.
Most biblical scholars agree that Paul personally authored seven letters: Romans, 1 and 2 Corinthians, Galatians, Philippians, 1 Thessalonians, and Philemon.
Six letters in the New Testament are widely considered by scholars to be pseudonymous (written by followers or later authors in Paul’s name) due to differences in style, vocabulary, and theology: Ephesians, Colossians, 2 Thessalonians, 11 and 2 Timothy (the Pastoral Epistles), and Titus.
There is a theologian who was a Jesuit father and left the vatican church.
He has extensively studied the Bible, and he has completely debunked the Old Testament; he said that everything is a myth, but his problem is that he believes that Jesus did exist as a rebel zealot and that Maria Magadlene, his partner, was the founder of Christianity.
He has also said that the letters of Paul should be indexed first in the New Testament because he never met Jesus and Paul started his own religion before the gospel was written.He said that the writers of the gospel never existed, and they tried to glorify Jesus, and that John never wrote the Apocalypse and that it was a type of literature used at the time that it was written, used to give hope instead of calamity and destruction,
He has said that the god of the bible is a criminal, a torturer and a terrorist, and that he is not the father of Jesus; his father was Mary and Joseph, Jesus called that god. Father and mother, like the indians called the earth the mother ( Pacha mama ) and the sun the father
All that proves what Karl Marx said about the existence of religion. The original conditions are still prevalent in our society. The can not be eliminated by decree, as was done by the Bolsheviks; more than 85% of the Russians were religous peoples.
After so many years of scientific advancement, millions of people believe in religion, and all of them have been proven to be false; as Feuerbeack said: Man created religion but religion did not create men, but in the mind of million of human beings it is the opposite, at present, millions believe more in politicians than in scientific discovery, as in the case of vaccination and covid 19, measles, infection and parasites.
The new MRMA vaccination is a big scientific achievement, and many diseases can be cured; stem cells are a big scientific achievement, and many diseases are already being cured using stem cells, including arthritis and bone diseases. Despite all that, millions of human beings support conspiracy theories promoted by Christian nationalists, and they know shit about medicine, pathology, embryology, parasitology or internal medicine; they have killed internists and nurses.
Medicine existed for more than 50,000 years under magical medicine; it is part of its history, and still people practice magical medicine, exorcism, and witchcraft; we are still under the spell of the divinities, and a bunch of charlatans are making money and living off the back of the peoples, catholic priests and evangelical pastors are practising magical medicines.
In the case of Yahaev ( which adopted many names ), it was defeated several times by other pagan gods ( or whatever is called in different languages), and the pretext was that people were punished by him/her for their sins, and people preferred the king instead of Yahaev. The history of Yahaev is similar to the history of Zeus (Iliad and the Odyssey), which was the father of all gods, and he had a mistress, and they punished each other and had a family with human beings
This is a good exercise that you have brought to this forum, because it shows that the case of the SPGB on religion is totally correct, and to understand the case of Jesus we have to go all the way back to the primitive religions; the case of the Socialist Party is different to the secular atheists
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QKISkEYPZbw. ( it
The history of monotheism from polytheism.Documents found inside an old city that was underground documents show that Yahve was the god of all gods, he controlled a council of gods, and he had a mistress ( like Zeus ) and he destroyed all the gods and he declared himself the only god. This Discovery reveals that Israel took all their gods from Canaan and that they were polytheist most of the time, therefore, monotheism was imposed by priests for political geopolitical reasons. That decisión gave birht to three monotheist religion
https://www.reviewofreligions.org/44533/the-enduring-peace-between-muslims-and-jews-in-al-andalus/.
The enduring peace between Muslims, jews and Christians in Al-Andalus. Cordoba and Toledo in Spain show a different picture from what is shown in the USA media outlets; the same wrong picture is shown about the Persians, Caldeans, and the Assyrians.
The educational system wants to remove humanities, sciences, world history, African and asian history.
Years back, Homer books were textbooks that were part of the Humanities department, as well as Faust, the Divine Comedy, the Social Contract, Locke, Latin, and French, Painting
Many teachers said that the Middle Ages were not so backward or a dark age
https://ateismoparacristianos.blogspot.com/2022/11/arqueologos-de-la-universidad-de-tel.html?m=1. Insert it in a software translator
This is a200 years of archeological research which debunks completely the bible ( and the Koran and Christianity and New Testament too )showing that everything is a lie. The kingdom of the north had several gods and the south had one god. The texts were written later than the time mentioned in the bible. Nothing was found in Egypt and the Sinai. No evidences of slavery in Egypt one pharaoh destroyed Canaán because they did not pay taxes
No traces oh Jesus and his family in Egypt. No killing of the first born by Herod
Without Moses Abraham Jacob and the capital sin everything else falls apart The case has been proven
and the verdict is that it is just a lie which later became a lucrative businessPaul had so many visions because he suffered from syphilis, and he used opium and hashish to treat the pain produced by the disease and that produce allucinations The writers of the Bible were psychopathic, and their god was a criminal. Paul was involved in the burning of Rome, and that is why they wanted to kill him
