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Participanthttps://medium.com/@s-blog/how-protestant-ethics-shaped-modern-capitalism-5e8c600d8956. How protestants shaped modern capitalism
Max Weber’s work “The Protestant Ethic and the Spirit of Capitalism” (1905) presents a causal mechanism that connects religious beliefs, particularly the Protestant Reformation, with the emergence and development of modern capitalism. To understand how Weber’s mechanism can be explained using the Macro-Micro-Macro model, we must analyse the relationship between social structures (macro), individual behaviour (micro), and the resulting societal consequences (macro). Overall, Weber challenges the Marxist materialist analysis and instead highlights how ideas, viewed through a sociological perspective on religion, contribute to the development towards modern capitalism.
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“The European Reformation, where the protestant cause became the ideology of the revolutionary bourgeoisie” Max Weber also wrote about that, too-
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ParticipantWhat was the main purpose of the Renaissance? Wasn’t it a scientific, philosophical and artistic rebirth from the obscurity created by Feudalism? It was a more modern approach than European feudalism
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ParticipantThe point is that socialists oppose the death penalty and violence. Left and right are against the killing of their own, but support the killing of others. Class struggle and political struggle are the real struggles of the world’s working class. The so called anti fascists are also violent, like the fascists
https://www.marxists.org/archive/martov/1918/07/death-penalty.htm. Down with the death penalty, Martov
Julius Martov’s 1918 article, “Down with the Death Penalty!”, was a principled, defiant condemnation of the Bolshevik regime’s use of capital punishment during the Red Terror. Martov argued that the death penalty was “savage barbarism” and a tool of political terror employed by leaders who had lost the trust of the people.
In our time, the killing of a corporation’s CEO and political leaders is useless. Capitalism continues as usual
Leon Trotsky was assassinated by the same political machinery that he supported, and he was part of the killing of the Bolsheviks and the workers who opposed the soviet state
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Participanthttps://socialismoryourmoneyback.blogspot.com/2024/09/political-assassination-accomplishes.html
Monday, September 16, 2024
Political assassination accomplishes nothing-
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ParticipantKarl Marx analysed the destruction of factories and machinery—often termed “machine-breaking” or Luddism—as a natural, albeit misguided, response by workers to the exploitation, misery, and unemployment caused by the rise of industrial capitalism. While acknowledging these actions, Marx argued that workers needed to learn to differentiate between machinery itself and the capitalist mode of employing it.
Key Perspectives on Burning Factories in Marx’s Analysis:
Result of Industrial Crises: In Capital, Vol. I, Marx, noted that improvements in machinery, under capitalism, “throw workers out of employment” and produce the effects of a commercial crisis, leading to desperation and destruction of property.Targeting the “Material Instruments”: Marx observed that early working-class revolts (such as the Luddites in the early 19th century) targeted the factories and machines themselves.
From “Burning” to “Organising”: Marx argued that the labour movement needed to evolve from attacking the material instruments of production to attacking the system that uses them. He argued that machines, in a “well-ordered state of society,” should be a source of benefit, not wretchedness.
Context of Rebellion (Silesia 1844): Marx identified early factory uprisings, such as the 1844 Silesian textile riots, as the beginning of collective action, marking a shift toward recognising class antagonism.Marx believed that once workers realised that the machine was not the enemy—but rather its capitalist employment—they would transition from random destruction to structured, socialist revolution
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ParticipantFacing Defeat in Iran, Trump Is Weaker Than Ever
Trump started one of the most unpopular wars in U.S. history and now he is paying the price.Ximena Goldman
April 10, 2026
Just one day passed after President Trump announced the ceasefire with Iran before the cracks in the fragile agreement began to show. For now, no one can say for sure what course the war will take, but more than a month after it began, it has already severely damaged both Trump’s administration and U.S. legitimacy internationally, exposing the vulnerabilities of an Empire in decay.
Trump must now grapple with the political costs of having started one of the most unpopular wars in U.S. history, just a little more than half a year before the midterm elections, where his party could face serious defeats. The fallout of the war is also contributing to the already simmering discontent among the masses. From the revolt against ICE in Minneapolis to the massive No Kings rallies, which had a strong anti-war sentiment, opposition to Trump and the Far-Right is continuing to grow.
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ParticipantIn Iran, Trump Gives China the Opportunity to Win Without Firing a Shot in the Middle East
China played a decisive role in brokering the ceasefire with Iran even as it backed Tehran’s efforts to close the Strait of Hormuz. It seeks to protect its economic interests and consolidate its image as a counterweight to U.S. hegemony.-
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ParticipantCDM – As fascinating as your history of materialism is, and I mean that sincerely, I’m at a loss to know what it’s got to do with this thread? Also the Reformation only came up because I had to refute one of TM’s many straw-men to the effect that I thought Luther was ‘bourgeois’. As far as I can see nobody has said that the reformation was the work of one man – quite the reverse in fact. As I said there were several Like Hus and Wycliffe who started the criticism of catholicism a lot earlier but because they were relatively unprotected they were suppressed violently. Protestantism was born when rulers found the ideology convenient for political purposes. Getting back to Fascism do you see no historical parallels with the beginnings of the ideology in the 1930s?
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Neither this thread about religion has anything to do with Donald Trump, either; we are off-topic. Why did I mention materialism? Because all religions had a materialistic origin, and they were related to a mode of productionCiudadano Del Mundo
ParticipantGermany was not the founder of materialism, which dates back to ancient Greek philosophers like Democritus. However, Germany was pivotal in developing 19th-century scientific and historical materialism, primarily through Ludwig Feuerbach and Karl Marx, who rejected idealism to focus on material conditions, biological, and economic factors.
Ancient Roots: Materialism originated with pre-Socratic Greek thinkers like Democritus (5th century BCE), who proposed that the world consists of atoms.
19th Century German Materialism: In the 1840s, German intellectuals reacted against Hegelian idealism. Ludwig Feuerbach (“Father of German Materialism”) introduced anthropological materialism, while Karl Vogt and Ludwig Büchner pushed a biological/scientific form.
Marx and Historical Materialism: Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels developed historical materialism, shifting focus to economic development and class struggle as the engines of history.
Context: Unlike British or French traditions, which had earlier materialist roots, German materialism was a 19th-century movement aimed at dismantling idealistic philosophy and modernising society.Key proponents such as Feuerbach and Marx sought to “turn Hegel on his head,” arguing that existence determines consciousness, not the other way around.
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ParticipantFriedrich Engels argued that modern materialism was born in England, identifying 17th-century philosopher Francis Bacon as its real progenitor and noting that Duns Scotus posed early questions about materialist thought. Engels argued that this materialism became ingrained in British thought, eventually influencing socialist doctrine and the analysis of industrial class struggles.
Key aspects of Engels’ view on the origins of materialism:
The Progenitor: Engels considered Francis Bacon the founder of English materialism, emphasising sensory experience and induction as the basis for science.
Early Roots: He traced materialistic tendencies in British philosophy back to schoolmen like Duns Scotus, who asked if matter could think.
Development: Engels described materialism as the “natural-born son of Great Britain” and later argued that this English materialism was essential for the development of scientific socialism, which he and Marx developed.
Historical Context: In his work The Condition of the Working Class in England, Engels analysed the material realities of the industrial revolution, linking economic conditions (materialism) to social outcomes.Ciudadano Del Mundo
ParticipantProtestantism was the ideological vehicle used by the English capitalists to develop and establish capitalism in
England and the USA, and most of them were Calvinists, and the Puritan which were the ones who emigrated to the US, were Calvinists too.In that historical period, Calvinist Protestantism, in some way, was more ideologically advanced than catholicism and Lutheranism, and capitalism was more advanced than feudalism
Luther never abandoned Catholicism completely; even more, the Lutheran church is known as catholic like, the calvinists were completely against Catholicism, and luther continue supporting the cult of the Virgin Mary. Lutheranism was not the proper ideological vehicle to be used by the bourgeoisie class
Germany was not the founder of Protestantism ( they were part of the Reformation); they were the English calvinists
Marx Capital indicated that when the English church expropriated the catholic church, one of the first original accumulations of capital took place, and capitalism needed an original ( primitive ) accumulation of capital since the very beginning
Catholicism did not provide the economic and ideological basis for the foundation of capitalism; it was the english calvinists protestantism, catholicism was a religion attached to feudalism, and the capitalists were anti-feudalists, which is one of the reasons why Spain was one of the last European countries to establish capitalism.
Protestantism is not the product of one man; it was a historical process. In some way, Max Weber explained that
This research on Historical materialism shows how most religions were attached to a mode of production
https://www.marxists.org/archive/keracher/1929/how-gods-made.htm. How the gods were made
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ParticipantThat NATO/US proxy war is already lost, and Russia has a big chunk of the natural resources and access to the sea. The US can not even handle the war in Iran financially unless they increase their debts
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Participant‘Truly Insane’: Pentagon Threatened Pope After He Condemned Trump’s Military Attacks
The US “has the military power to do whatever it wants in the world,” a top official told the Vatican’s US representative. “The Catholic Church had better take its side.”Ciudadano Del Mundo
ParticipantA friend of the family was a French war correspondent during World War II, and he said that journalists were not a direct target of the Nazis; most journalists were accidentally killed, and now journalists are a direct target.
The US prohibited the reading of Marx and Engels’ works, and it was a crime; libraries and schools had to remove and burn their works.
Therefore, the Nazis are not the only ones who banned and burned books; the nationalists christians are doing the same acts by eliminating all scientific books, books that none of them has read, and will not read
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