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  • in reply to: Russian Tensions #267367

    The democrats leaders reject the Iran war but they support the war in Ukraine and the expansion of NATO

    in reply to: China and Statism #267358

    I have read part of his book, I have not finished yet. I have the apple digital format . I was able to transform it into a PDF format

    in reply to: China and Statism #267349

    Mao, his close collaborators, and his followers called China a feudal society, but in reality, during that period of time, feudalism did not exist in China; it existed in Russia but not in China. Karl Marx called it the Asiatic mode of production, a system different from European feudalism, applicable to Asia ( some historians have excluded Japan), the Mediterranean lands, Egypt, and India, an agrarian society based on centralised state power. The Soviets rejected the concept because their society was similar to Soviet society; other members of the Frankfurt School called it Oriental despotism

    in reply to: Socialism not Communism #267345

    When you watch the protests, the dozens of agendas on show, the violence, the looting, the burning … Those are the people who would be running your society; the only thing missing is Robespierre.

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    Those are propaganda printed by the capitalist press and propagated by pro-capitalist wage slaves; the reality is different. During the emergence of capitalism, certain sectors in society destroyed machinery, and that aptitude was rejected by the socialists, and it is mentioned in the Communist Manifesto. The important aspect is not mentioned: that the majority of the people are protesting peacefully due to conditions created by capitalism; they are rejecting austerity, elimination of social benefits, quality of education, teachers’ salaries, and school deterioration. The protests have extended to Spain due to housing problems, to Germany, Italy and Latin America. Capitalism has been a failure all over the earth, and reformism has not resolved the problems.

    https://www.worldsocialism.org/spgb/socialist-standard/2020s/2026/no-1467-november-2026/editorial-enough-is-enough-is-not-enough/. .

    France: what was it all about?

    Strangely enough, these violent groups, sometimes known as the black bloc, are rarely picked up by the police and arrested. Nobody knows who they are. They seem to be used to keep ordinary citizens at a cautious distance from their rights to free expression. Amazingly, those conventional politicians who managed to find their way across the Parisian battlefield into the safe havens of the TV studios seem to be convinced that their membership consists of highly organised members of the ‘ultra-gauche’. (Earlier references to the black bloc seem to have been edited out of the official narrative). The designated culprit, it would seem, is what they call the ‘antifa’ (anti-fascist); heretofore a fantastical organisation which has miraculously put down solid roots in the USA. There they have – according to the official narrative – violently interrupted the work of Trump’s anti-immigrant agency and rendered the (strictly anti-constitutional) operations of the ICE goons problematic. One may ask, aren’t we supposed to be anti-fascist in a democracy?.

    in reply to: Socialism not Communism #267344

    How is this supposed to happen, given that people will universally enjoy free access to the goods and services they need? Free access eliminates the possibility of any leverage being exercised that would allow any individual or group to exert power over any others.
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    The same old argument of the Leninists: that capitalism can be restored, or that from communism capitalism can be re-established, or that capitalism was restored in the soviet union after the death of Stalin, Hoxha in Albania, or Mao in China, or that state capitalism was established in Russia in 1930 by Stalin, but how? If the majority have free access, how are they going to come back to an old system based on private possession? That is going to be impossible.

    They are completely negating the materialist conception of history, which has shown that history has not been made by leaders or kings, but the arguer in this thread does not have a clue about the materialist conception of history; his argument is based on the idealist conception of history, which has been proven to be completely false

    It is like saying that capitalists want to come back to feudalism to re-establish capitalism; first, an original accumulation of capital is needed, and a new capitalist class must evolve in the society; the conditions that existed during primitive communism are very different to modern communism, and classical slavery was established

    If the means of production are in the hands and control of the world working class, how is an original accumulation of capital going to take place? how a minority groups is going to defeat the majority? It is like removing candies from the mouth of a child; the world working class is not going to allow that, and also the class consciousness of the working class will not motivate them to follow a minority group

    Those are only right-wing theories, to discredit socialism and to win the favour of the working class, and they are also propagated by ignorants who do not know what they are talking about

    in reply to: Jesus. #267341

    I am really dismayed that atheist academics of renown are saying there is lots of evidence for an historical Jesus. This translates to the kind of “fact” on internet searches too about the “proven existence of Jesus.”

    These academics then quote Paul’s epistles as proof! They also rehash the Josephus interpolations, and the remarks on Christians in Pliny the Younger, Tacitus and Suetonius. All these do is report the existence of Christians, not of Jesus.

    How can such bright people repeat the claim of “lots of evidence” for Jesus?

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    Many medical doctors go to church every Sunday knowing that Medicine (especially medical embryology) has proven the natural origin of life. For more than 50,000 years, medicine was influenced by magic, cranium trepanation, and blood spilling to remove the spirits, and shamanism.

    They believe in the divinity of Christ, the so-called Holy Trinity, the transmutation from wine into blood and bread into flesh (cannibalism or anthropophagy). Drinking blood was an old pagan ritual; there are still people drinking turtles’ blood for sexual stimulation, to stimulate manhood ( afrodisiac ). Also, autovampirism, or autohemophagia, is an old pagan ritual and mental disorder. There is an alcoholic drink ( mamajuana, guavaberry, prepared by shamans and behiques ) that contains turtles’ testicles, roots, and fruits to boost libido, which is only an old myth without any scientific basis

    in reply to: China and Statism #267340

    Debunking the myth of Mao Cultism, China’s state capitalism and market capitalism, and the fallacy of Chinese socialism, and its so-called regulated economy for the benefit of the workers

    Maoism, state capitalism and market capitalism

    in reply to: China and Statism #267339
    in reply to: China and Statism #267337

    Without understanding Mao Tse-tung’s thought, which is an extension of Leninism-Stalinism and Blanquism, it is very difficult to understand what is taking place in China and what happened before and after the formation of the Chinese republic. Statism has always existed in China since the time of the dynasties; the despotic Asiatic mode of production is older than British capitalism

    Maoism is the most brutal application of the vanguard party to lead over the workers; the Cultural Revolution is one of the few examples that turned Maoism into a fanatic religion, similar to the Spanish Inquisition, and Mao was the Chinese Torquemada

    The cult of Mao was even stronger than the cult toward Stalin; cultists do not use reasoning; they just follow their leaders blindly

    That is one of the reasons why the cult toward Donald Trump is so strong; in this case, the ruling class has used Christianity or nationalist evangelicals. In China, the ruling class used Maoism, which is also a bourgeois nationalist conception

    The Albanian tendency and Hoxhaism debunked Maoism completely; the problem was that they were Leninists too, like Trotskyism and left communists were not able to break away from Leninism; everything goes back to the vanguard party concept; that is the reason why the SPGB correctly call it the Russian Machiavellian manipulation, manipulation from the top to the bottom

    Maoism is not gone; it is still there, and they continue manipulating the workers,s and after the incident that killed thousands of workers and students, the grip over the workers has been increased; their control over the workers is stronger than Stalinism. It is like saying that Stalinism was gone during and after Kruschev; the head was gone, but the ideology was left

    Lenin and Stalin knew the real meaning of socialism, and they used certain Marxist phraseology, but Mao did not know the real definition of socialism; he is an empty suit. I do not know how some groups have been able to find Marxist conception in Maoism; there is nothing in Maoism.

    The answer is that they never knew anything about Marxist theory ( as Adam said, the world only knew Stalinism) and state capitalism; nobody has ever had the same Marxist background as the socialist party, including the most famous theorists; it was like citing Bible verses. Any ex-Maoists that try to join the socialist party must first obtain a political exorcism.

    It is a Chinese nationalist conception applicable to third-world countries. That is the reason why it became so popular in Latin America and Africa, and many groups became guerrilla fighters, and all of them were completely wiped out by the state because they did not have any support among the peasants; they only had peasant support in China and Vietnam. Some groups, like the missionaries, sent cadres to work in the rural areas; it did not work either

    Just look at the Maoist parties that were formed outside of China; they followed the same pattern: they created a cult, and their leaders were like gods. Bob Avakian is the best example, and the COUSML also had a strong cultist leadership; Klonsky was like a god, and he had bodyguards

    In Peru, Sendero Luminoso was a religious cult; in the Caribbean, it was the same pattern, and they attracted most of the young university students who became cadres, and most of them were killed; they did not know the character and the power of the capitalist state, and the whole movement vanished, and they left in a stampede or became an attachment of the capitalist governments. They did not leave a socialist legacy.

    The whole Maoism movement has been a failure as a political tendency. China has evolved as an economic powerhouse because it is a hybrid of state capitalism and market capitalism, and the whole CPC is controlled by strong oligarchs, and the workers are forcibly submitted to the despotic plan of the assembly line, and they have produced an enormous amount of surplus value, able to compete with a powerful country like the USA, but still they have not surpassed American capitalism.

    in reply to: Socialism not Communism #267306

    WHAT IS RELIGION?

    Add this one too, which is about religion

    in reply to: Socialism not Communism #267302

    https://www.marxists.org/archive/keracher/1929/how-gods-made.htm

    How gods were created

    This is another good pamphlet about religion; it is also based on the Materialist Conception of History

    It explains that all religion had a materialistic origin and that several came along with a mode of production

    in reply to: Jesus. #267287

    BD

    My experience was different, and I have good memories of the catholic and the episcopal church, and of liberation theology and their members working with the poor workers and with the peasants, and some went to jail; in Argentina, many of them were killed and tortured.d

    Some La Salle brothers that I met left because they wanted more social and political activities;s, for them, it was not enough. They were limited due to religious views, but they were trained to become teachers, and that was their mission, and they supported natural sciences, humanities, literature, and personal analysis; one of them became an atheist.

    We did not experience any sexual violations or personal harassment; probably, it is a cultural thing and a sense of community and respect. They treated us like their own children. We cried when some of our teachers died because we loved them, and sometimes we wanted to be like them; teachers were an extension of our family.

    in reply to: Socialism not Communism #267285

    It is like partially citing Marx phrase, “Religion is the opium of the people”; that is the end of the expression, not the beginning of the whole context. It is an expression used by religious fanatics to attack Marx and socialism, but that is not the whole idea, and it must be studied within its historical context.

    I also indicate that religion is the expression of an oppressed creature living on a world based on oppression and injustice, and it is the soul of soulless conditions, and the concept of soul is not religious either. Marx was a materialist, and materialism has also been wrongly defined; it is a philosophical concept, and it has nothing to do with money.

    Religion offers comforts to human beings; he did not view religion in the same way as the secular atheist, as a malign institution. Some religious individuals were utopian socialists; some people join religion to have a certain sense of community; some people want to help other humans because that is our real nature; to be selfish is not part of our nature.

    In that time,e opium was widely used as a painkiller, and it was permitted to use it; it was a medication and religion can be used as a painkiller too, as a temporary cure for our social pains. The apostle Paul, who suffered from syphilis, used hashish to alleviate the pain produced by the disease.

    All religions had a materialistic origin,n and they were created by man, and the concept of people has been redefined too. The critique of religion is the critique of the economic system and vice versa; that is the real context and the meaning of the whole expression.

    In reality, religion is no longer an opium; there are many places where religion does not prevail anymore, and religion has been rejected, and with the advance of medicine, people use real medications prescribed by medical doctors instead of priests.

    The Socialist Party has a different view about religion. We do not follow the conceptions of the secular atheists; our view is based on the Materialist Conception of History, and history was not made by gods, leaders, priests, prophets or kings

    Socialism and Religion

    in reply to: Socialism not Communism #267282

    “Dictatorship is based directly upon force and is unrestricted by any laws. The revolutionary dictatorship of the proletariat is rule won and maintained by the use of violence by the proletariat against the bourgeoisie.” (Collected Works, Vol. 28, p.236). I think that sums it up?

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    It does not sum it up. You have to understand history based on context; dictatorship at that time meant government, and government meant governing, taken from the Roman legal system, which was also a temporary measure. The constitution was not eliminated, and the congress was not eliminated either. In our time, the concept is different: it is the imposition of a minority group over a majority by rules without any temporary character, by imposition, without rules, without Congress, without constitution, and killing. The state has always been managed by a minority.

    In a society like the USA which has had a long traditional bourgeois democracy it is impossible to have a personal dictatorship, even more, trump can not impose himself as a fascist either, he might be an authritarina leader, but he is not a fascist, fascism and nazism were form adopted by capitalism in countries like Germany and Italy, but in our time it is impossible to establish fascism or nazism in Germany or Italy and right wings government are not fascists and hey have a large support within the population they do not need a coup to establish themselves, they are using the electoral system.

    After the Commune of Paris, Marx and Engels indicated that the working class was able to establish itself through the ballot box using the limited bourgeois democracy

    In that historical period, the proletariat, which was the industrial class, was a minority class, and it existed mainly in England. Capitalism was evolving in other countries like Germany and France. To impose itself as a minority, it had to impose itself over the capitalist class, which was also a minority class. It does not say to impose itself over the working class, which is the majority in our time. The slaves can not impose rules over themselves.

    We are living under the dictatorship of capital as an economic system, and that dictatorship has existed for more than 300 years, which is the imposition of one minority class over a majority class. The historical contexts are different: at that time ,the working class was not able to establish itself as a majority class, as in our time, and in our time, it does not need violence to take over the society, and by taking society the concept of proletariat will not longer exist, in a socialist society ex capitalist wills coexist with the majority of the population, but as individual, not as a class.

    Imposing itself would have led to the establishment of state capitalism; it was only a temporary measure applicable to the 19th century. With the world development of capitalism, the DOP is not needed any longer, and the SPGB has never supported the dictatorship of the proletariat, and it has never supported the labour voucher. The DOP is not the main core of Marxist theory, and it was propagated by Lenin in his three parts and three components of Marxism; it is just a Lenin distortion and then propagated by the Stalinists and the Trotskyists and the right-wingers

    Socialism is not a citation;n, it is a historical context of conceptions, and several contexts have changed, and they have evolved. Marx and Engels amended some of their conceptions, adding new prefaces to their writing; the concept of history shown in the manifesto was changed after Lewis Morgan’s discovery; there was a historical period in mankind where social classes did not exist.

    in reply to: China and Statism #267276

    Don’t forget their adoration in China of Thatcher and Idi Amin.

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    That is only one of the few reactionary governments and leaders that Mao and his gangs supported, including Pin. The situation is obvious, and still many groups continue supporting Mao and the government of China, and until now they are calling China a socialist country, which means that they do not have a clue of what socialism really is

    After Salvador Allende was overthrown by the military in combination with the USA, the CIA and Henry Kissinger, who was the creator of the death squad and the Condor operation that killed thousands of people, including members of leftist groups, they kept diplomatic and commercial relationships with Augusto Pinochet; they expelled all the ambassadors that supported Allende; they offered military and logistical aid, and financial and economic aid to Augusto Pinochet.

    They just wanted to expand their own market as they are doing now, proving what Luxembourg said that all capitalists countries are imperialists, the commercial relationship with Latin America, was started during the time of Mao and they expanded it more when the gangs of four was removed by a coup conducted by Ping and his gangs of gangsters, the gangs of four ( called the gangs of five by some Maoist groups ) belonged to the old Maoist circles, all of them became powerful during the cultural revolution including the wife of Mao.

    Ping had previously been attacked by Mao and after the death of Mao Tse Tung they conducted a coup and all of them were arrested, some went to prison others were executed, all these actions were published on Albania Today during the time of Enver Hoxha, and the magazine was distributed around the whole world by subscriptions, they initiated the so called four modernizations introduced by Enlai and Ping to convert china into a world capitalist power, the capitalist development of China started during the time of Mao and after his death, the four modernization included the military expansion of China, and a long process of deregulation was started.
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    They supported the military dictatorship of Pakistan and the genocide committed against Bangladesh to weaken India, which was an ally of the Soviet Union. They provided military and financial aid to Pakistan; Mao himself advised the peasant leaders to support the Pakistan army.
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    In Africa, they supported several reactionary and anti communists groups and governments, including he government of Mobutu; they supported reactionary regimes in Angola, Laos, and the Shah of Iran, and all of them received military and financial aid from China during the time of Mao.

    They were just competing against the Soviet Union to expand and establish their own spheres of influence.

    This group is still one of the dinosaurs left that is defending China and calling China a socialist country; many Maoist groups do not support China anymore. They have recognised that it is just another capitalist country; some ex-pro-Albanian groups who rejected Maoism completely are forming alliances.

    This is an ex-Maoist, Stalinist, and still-Leninist group that has written several articles about China; the so-called regulation is a myth; there is a large privatisation process showing that state capitalism is not so efficient. They are using Leninist jargon to explain their analysis. The same process is taking place in Vietnam under their so-called market socialism. In reality, that process started to take place in Yugoslavia under Tito, who was a friend of the Western powers, like Pol Pot
    . https://www.communistvoice.org/00China.html

    The CPC has been in a self-adjusting process since it started under the leadership of Mao; they are like the evangelicals: they have been on a revival mission for many years.

    The Maoists themselves are saying that the Congress of the CPC is just a congress of capitalists adjusting themselves to the cyclical crisis of capitalism, and the central committee is conducted by capitalists; there is no difference between the internal capitalist struggles of the US republican party and the Democratic Party

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