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  • in reply to: Worker burns down toilet paper factory low wages #263575
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    https://socialismoryourmoneyback.blogspot.com/2024/09/political-assassination-accomplishes.html

    Monday, September 16, 2024
    Political assassination accomplishes nothing

    Assassinations or class struggle?

    A History of Assassination

    in reply to: Worker burns down toilet paper factory low wages #263566
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    Karl Marx analysed the destruction of factories and machinery—often termed “machine-breaking” or Luddism—as a natural, albeit misguided, response by workers to the exploitation, misery, and unemployment caused by the rise of industrial capitalism. While acknowledging these actions, Marx argued that workers needed to learn to differentiate between machinery itself and the capitalist mode of employing it.

    Key Perspectives on Burning Factories in Marx’s Analysis:
    Result of Industrial Crises: In Capital, Vol. I, Marx, noted that improvements in machinery, under capitalism, “throw workers out of employment” and produce the effects of a commercial crisis, leading to desperation and destruction of property.

    Targeting the “Material Instruments”: Marx observed that early working-class revolts (such as the Luddites in the early 19th century) targeted the factories and machines themselves.
    From “Burning” to “Organising”: Marx argued that the labour movement needed to evolve from attacking the material instruments of production to attacking the system that uses them. He argued that machines, in a “well-ordered state of society,” should be a source of benefit, not wretchedness.
    Context of Rebellion (Silesia 1844): Marx identified early factory uprisings, such as the 1844 Silesian textile riots, as the beginning of collective action, marking a shift toward recognising class antagonism.

    Marx believed that once workers realised that the machine was not the enemy—but rather its capitalist employment—they would transition from random destruction to structured, socialist revolution

    in reply to: Trump as president again? #263556
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    Facing Defeat in Iran, Trump Is Weaker Than Ever

    Facing Defeat in Iran, Trump Is Weaker Than Ever
    Trump started one of the most unpopular wars in U.S. history and now he is paying the price.

    Ximena Goldman

    April 10, 2026

    Just one day passed after President Trump announced the ceasefire with Iran before the cracks in the fragile agreement began to show. For now, no one can say for sure what course the war will take, but more than a month after it began, it has already severely damaged both Trump’s administration and U.S. legitimacy internationally, exposing the vulnerabilities of an Empire in decay.

    Trump must now grapple with the political costs of having started one of the most unpopular wars in U.S. history, just a little more than half a year before the midterm elections, where his party could face serious defeats. The fallout of the war is also contributing to the already simmering discontent among the masses. From the revolt against ICE in Minneapolis to the massive No Kings rallies, which had a strong anti-war sentiment, opposition to Trump and the Far-Right is continuing to grow.

    in reply to: Trump as president again? #263554
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    https://www.leftvoice.org/in-iran-trump-gives-china-the-opportunity-to-win-without-firing-a-shot-in-the-middle-east/

    In Iran, Trump Gives China the Opportunity to Win Without Firing a Shot in the Middle East
    China played a decisive role in brokering the ceasefire with Iran even as it backed Tehran’s efforts to close the Strait of Hormuz. It seeks to protect its economic interests and consolidate its image as a counterweight to U.S. hegemony.

    in reply to: Trump as president again? #263553
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    CDM – As fascinating as your history of materialism is, and I mean that sincerely, I’m at a loss to know what it’s got to do with this thread? Also the Reformation only came up because I had to refute one of TM’s many straw-men to the effect that I thought Luther was ‘bourgeois’. As far as I can see nobody has said that the reformation was the work of one man – quite the reverse in fact. As I said there were several Like Hus and Wycliffe who started the criticism of catholicism a lot earlier but because they were relatively unprotected they were suppressed violently. Protestantism was born when rulers found the ideology convenient for political purposes. Getting back to Fascism do you see no historical parallels with the beginnings of the ideology in the 1930s?

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    Neither this thread about religion has anything to do with Donald Trump, either; we are off-topic. Why did I mention materialism? Because all religions had a materialistic origin, and they were related to a mode of production

    in reply to: Trump as president again? #263544
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    Germany was not the founder of materialism, which dates back to ancient Greek philosophers like Democritus. However, Germany was pivotal in developing 19th-century scientific and historical materialism, primarily through Ludwig Feuerbach and Karl Marx, who rejected idealism to focus on material conditions, biological, and economic factors.

    Ancient Roots: Materialism originated with pre-Socratic Greek thinkers like Democritus (5th century BCE), who proposed that the world consists of atoms.

    19th Century German Materialism: In the 1840s, German intellectuals reacted against Hegelian idealism. Ludwig Feuerbach (“Father of German Materialism”) introduced anthropological materialism, while Karl Vogt and Ludwig Büchner pushed a biological/scientific form.

    Marx and Historical Materialism: Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels developed historical materialism, shifting focus to economic development and class struggle as the engines of history.
    Context: Unlike British or French traditions, which had earlier materialist roots, German materialism was a 19th-century movement aimed at dismantling idealistic philosophy and modernising society.

    Key proponents such as Feuerbach and Marx sought to “turn Hegel on his head,” arguing that existence determines consciousness, not the other way around.

    in reply to: Trump as president again? #263543
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    Friedrich Engels argued that modern materialism was born in England, identifying 17th-century philosopher Francis Bacon as its real progenitor and noting that Duns Scotus posed early questions about materialist thought. Engels argued that this materialism became ingrained in British thought, eventually influencing socialist doctrine and the analysis of industrial class struggles.

    Key aspects of Engels’ view on the origins of materialism:

    The Progenitor: Engels considered Francis Bacon the founder of English materialism, emphasising sensory experience and induction as the basis for science.

    Early Roots: He traced materialistic tendencies in British philosophy back to schoolmen like Duns Scotus, who asked if matter could think.

    Development: Engels described materialism as the “natural-born son of Great Britain” and later argued that this English materialism was essential for the development of scientific socialism, which he and Marx developed.
    Historical Context: In his work The Condition of the Working Class in England, Engels analysed the material realities of the industrial revolution, linking economic conditions (materialism) to social outcomes.

    in reply to: Trump as president again? #263542
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    Protestantism was the ideological vehicle used by the English capitalists to develop and establish capitalism in
    England and the USA, and most of them were Calvinists, and the Puritan which were the ones who emigrated to the US, were Calvinists too.

    In that historical period, Calvinist Protestantism, in some way, was more ideologically advanced than catholicism and Lutheranism, and capitalism was more advanced than feudalism

    Luther never abandoned Catholicism completely; even more, the Lutheran church is known as catholic like, the calvinists were completely against Catholicism, and luther continue supporting the cult of the Virgin Mary. Lutheranism was not the proper ideological vehicle to be used by the bourgeoisie class

    Germany was not the founder of Protestantism ( they were part of the Reformation); they were the English calvinists

    Marx Capital indicated that when the English church expropriated the catholic church, one of the first original accumulations of capital took place, and capitalism needed an original ( primitive ) accumulation of capital since the very beginning

    Catholicism did not provide the economic and ideological basis for the foundation of capitalism; it was the english calvinists protestantism, catholicism was a religion attached to feudalism, and the capitalists were anti-feudalists, which is one of the reasons why Spain was one of the last European countries to establish capitalism.

    Protestantism is not the product of one man; it was a historical process. In some way, Max Weber explained that

    This research on Historical materialism shows how most religions were attached to a mode of production

    https://www.marxists.org/archive/keracher/1929/how-gods-made.htm. How the gods were made

    in reply to: Russian Tensions #263520
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    That NATO/US proxy war is already lost, and Russia has a big chunk of the natural resources and access to the sea. The US can not even handle the war in Iran financially unless they increase their debts

    in reply to: Trump as president again? #263514
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    https://www.commondreams.org/news/pope-leo-and-trump?utm_source=Common+Dreams&utm_campaign=456358096a-Top+News+%7C+Thu.+1%2F8%2F26_COPY_01&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_-c56d0ea580-601439995

    ‘Truly Insane’: Pentagon Threatened Pope After He Condemned Trump’s Military Attacks
    The US “has the military power to do whatever it wants in the world,” a top official told the Vatican’s US representative. “The Catholic Church had better take its side.”

    in reply to: Trump as president again? #263508
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    A friend of the family was a French war correspondent during World War II, and he said that journalists were not a direct target of the Nazis; most journalists were accidentally killed, and now journalists are a direct target.

    The US prohibited the reading of Marx and Engels’ works, and it was a crime; libraries and schools had to remove and burn their works.

    Therefore, the Nazis are not the only ones who banned and burned books; the nationalists christians are doing the same acts by eliminating all scientific books, books that none of them has read, and will not read

    in reply to: Trump as president again? #263507
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    Japan put a motion to the League of Nations in the 1920s to outlaw the bombing of civilians in wartime, but Britain vetoed it.
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    And the left-wingers are saying that Japan was fascist, it was a military autocratic establishment, and now they are saying that the new right-wing government of Japan is fascist; they are associating right-wingers with fascism, but they are supporting the autocratic government of North Korea and Iran.

    Right and left are two wings of the same bird, known as capitalism

    The Allies used all the biological and chemical experiments developed by the Japanese military, and the Allies took with them many Nazis scientists to continue their scientific military development used after World War II2 including the soviets.

    The US knew the location of several nazis general in Argentina, but they did not face Nuremberg, because those German generals also knew that several nazis were used by NATO

    in reply to: Trump as president again? #263503
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    CDM says: ‘The left-wingers are comparing Donald Trump to Adolf Hitler. Both individuals represent capitalism under different contexts and under different circumstances…’
    So you see no parallels with the past at all? Didn’t Marx say ‘that history repeats itself first as a tragedy and second as a farce.’
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    If it is a farce, it is not equal, ( Marx did not say that the past was equal to present, it was a farce ) and the left-wingers are saying that Trump is equal to Hitler; therefore, we can say that Stalin was equal to Hitler, too, ( it was not equal and the reality was different too ) and most of them support Stalin, wars and violence, as a journalist wrote: Fascism comes in two forms, fascism and anti fascism, and the anti fascists are as violent as the fascists, and the socialists has self evident of that during W W 2

    The Nazis enacted many reforms for the working class, including infrastructure and social services like the rest of the European social democrats, and the government of Trump is the opposite; therefore, they are not equal. The Nazis, in certain aspects, paid respect to the Geneva Convention, and Trump does not.

    Hitler was surprised when Berlin was bombarded by the British because they did not want to bombard civilians, but it was a mistake made by a German pilot who bombarded London, and the British responded to the attack, and then both continued the bombardments. Trump does not care about bombarding civilians or civilian infrastructure, ambulances, war journalists, and schools; therefore, they are not equal.

    The Allies bombarded two cities, where they killed more people than the two bombs dropped in Japan, and the leftwingers define fascism as wars and racism only, and before the emergence of fascism, the western powers had killed more civilians than the Nazis, and they had concentration camps, racist camps, and racial oppression, the Gulap was not different to the German concentration camps, and they have eliminated one important element of fascism which is extreme nationalism and they are nationalists too, and none of them qualify to be called anti fascists when they also support the dictaatorship of one party which is another element of fascism and nazism.
    For the left-wingers, imperialism is only one country, which is false too, and that country is the US only, and the head of that empire is Trump, and it is known that imperialism includes all the capitalist countries. Trump has followed, and he has continued the policies of prior governments, including deportation, and until now, he can not beat Barack Obama and Joe Biden on deportations

    Your case does not hold water, and it is invalid. Fascism and Nazism are two particular forms adopted by capitalism that existed in Germany and Italy. The US Neo Nazis do not even have a clue about what nazism really was, and they are just town groups of unemployed workers who are against the establishment, but they are not against capitalism, and they do not have the scientific knowledge that the Nazis had.

    Ironically, one of those so called nazis groups, the head of that group is a Cuban black man, and the left-wingers are saying that one of the main characteristics of Nazism is racism, and it is known that racism was created by the ruling class, and it does not make any difference if they are white, black, brown, red or asians, many blacks, asians and latinos voted for trumps, and trump did not hide what he was going to do, they knew about his capitalist policies

    In some places in Europe, the workers saw the Nazis as the liberators instead of the Soviet Union because, for them, the Soviets were more brutal than the Nazis, and they had opposition during the invasions, and they did not liberate anybody; new bosses took over the domination of the world, including the soviets.

    This is the best historical definition of fascism and anti fascism

    Fascism: Avoiding Anachronism

    in reply to: Trump as president again? #263485
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    The ceasefire between Iran and the USA will not last too long. Israel continues attacking Lebanon, and they are part of the deal
    https://www.commondreams.org/opinion/trump-ceasefire

    An Unlikely (and Unstable) Ceasefire Deal and Trump’s Iran Blunder
    The ceasefire’s durability will hinge on whether Trump can restrain Israel from undermining the diplomatic track. On this point, there should be no illusions.
    TRITA PARSI
    Apr 08, 2026
    Common Dreams

    Yesterday began with Donald Trump issuing genocidal threats against Iran on social media and ended—just ten hours later—with the announcement of a 14-day ceasefire, on Iran’s terms. Even by the volatile standards of Trump’s presidency, the whiplash is extraordinary. What, then, have the two sides actually agreed to—and what might it mean?

    in reply to: Trump as president again? #263482
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    The left-wingers are comparing Donald Trump to Adolf Hitler. Both individuals represent capitalism under different contexts and under different circumstances, and without them, capitalism would have existed in the same context and within the same circumstances. Leftwingers are idealists and ideologists.

    The same idea can be applied to Joseph Stalin, even more, Stalin gave the green light to Molotov to become part of the Axis, and the alliance did not take place, but the soviet union became a part of the allied

    As someone wrote in another forum, Trump has done a great favour to mankind by openly showing the real nature of capitalism; they are not advocating for human rights, national sovereignty, or constitutional rights any more, they have practically eliminated the UN clauses.

    Many dictators ( including Nazis and fascists ) in the past respected diplomacy, embassies, nation-states, the Geneva Convention, and political exiles.

    The President of Colombia said: We are reaching the end of the nation-state. The Nazis and the Fascists advocated for extreme nationalism

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