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Japan put a motion to the League of Nations in the 1920s to outlaw the bombing of civilians in wartime, but Britain vetoed it.
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And the left-wingers are saying that Japan was fascist, it was a military autocratic establishment, and now they are saying that the new right-wing government of Japan is fascist; they are associating right-wingers with fascism, but they are supporting the autocratic government of North Korea and Iran.Right and left are two wings of the same bird, known as capitalism
The Allies used all the biological and chemical experiments developed by the Japanese military, and the Allies took with them many Nazis scientists to continue their scientific military development used after World War II2 including the soviets.
The US knew the location of several nazis general in Argentina, but they did not face Nuremberg, because those German generals also knew that several nazis were used by NATO
CDM says: ‘The left-wingers are comparing Donald Trump to Adolf Hitler. Both individuals represent capitalism under different contexts and under different circumstances…’
So you see no parallels with the past at all? Didn’t Marx say ‘that history repeats itself first as a tragedy and second as a farce.’
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If it is a farce, it is not equal, ( Marx did not say that the past was equal to present, it was a farce ) and the left-wingers are saying that Trump is equal to Hitler; therefore, we can say that Stalin was equal to Hitler, too, ( it was not equal and the reality was different too ) and most of them support Stalin, wars and violence, as a journalist wrote: Fascism comes in two forms, fascism and anti fascism, and the anti fascists are as violent as the fascists, and the socialists has self evident of that during W W 2The Nazis enacted many reforms for the working class, including infrastructure and social services like the rest of the European social democrats, and the government of Trump is the opposite; therefore, they are not equal. The Nazis, in certain aspects, paid respect to the Geneva Convention, and Trump does not.
Hitler was surprised when Berlin was bombarded by the British because they did not want to bombard civilians, but it was a mistake made by a German pilot who bombarded London, and the British responded to the attack, and then both continued the bombardments. Trump does not care about bombarding civilians or civilian infrastructure, ambulances, war journalists, and schools; therefore, they are not equal.
The Allies bombarded two cities, where they killed more people than the two bombs dropped in Japan, and the leftwingers define fascism as wars and racism only, and before the emergence of fascism, the western powers had killed more civilians than the Nazis, and they had concentration camps, racist camps, and racial oppression, the Gulap was not different to the German concentration camps, and they have eliminated one important element of fascism which is extreme nationalism and they are nationalists too, and none of them qualify to be called anti fascists when they also support the dictaatorship of one party which is another element of fascism and nazism.
For the left-wingers, imperialism is only one country, which is false too, and that country is the US only, and the head of that empire is Trump, and it is known that imperialism includes all the capitalist countries. Trump has followed, and he has continued the policies of prior governments, including deportation, and until now, he can not beat Barack Obama and Joe Biden on deportationsYour case does not hold water, and it is invalid. Fascism and Nazism are two particular forms adopted by capitalism that existed in Germany and Italy. The US Neo Nazis do not even have a clue about what nazism really was, and they are just town groups of unemployed workers who are against the establishment, but they are not against capitalism, and they do not have the scientific knowledge that the Nazis had.
Ironically, one of those so called nazis groups, the head of that group is a Cuban black man, and the left-wingers are saying that one of the main characteristics of Nazism is racism, and it is known that racism was created by the ruling class, and it does not make any difference if they are white, black, brown, red or asians, many blacks, asians and latinos voted for trumps, and trump did not hide what he was going to do, they knew about his capitalist policies
In some places in Europe, the workers saw the Nazis as the liberators instead of the Soviet Union because, for them, the Soviets were more brutal than the Nazis, and they had opposition during the invasions, and they did not liberate anybody; new bosses took over the domination of the world, including the soviets.
This is the best historical definition of fascism and anti fascism
The ceasefire between Iran and the USA will not last too long. Israel continues attacking Lebanon, and they are part of the deal
https://www.commondreams.org/opinion/trump-ceasefireAn Unlikely (and Unstable) Ceasefire Deal and Trump’s Iran Blunder
The ceasefire’s durability will hinge on whether Trump can restrain Israel from undermining the diplomatic track. On this point, there should be no illusions.
TRITA PARSI
Apr 08, 2026
Common DreamsYesterday began with Donald Trump issuing genocidal threats against Iran on social media and ended—just ten hours later—with the announcement of a 14-day ceasefire, on Iran’s terms. Even by the volatile standards of Trump’s presidency, the whiplash is extraordinary. What, then, have the two sides actually agreed to—and what might it mean?
The left-wingers are comparing Donald Trump to Adolf Hitler. Both individuals represent capitalism under different contexts and under different circumstances, and without them, capitalism would have existed in the same context and within the same circumstances. Leftwingers are idealists and ideologists.
The same idea can be applied to Joseph Stalin, even more, Stalin gave the green light to Molotov to become part of the Axis, and the alliance did not take place, but the soviet union became a part of the allied
As someone wrote in another forum, Trump has done a great favour to mankind by openly showing the real nature of capitalism; they are not advocating for human rights, national sovereignty, or constitutional rights any more, they have practically eliminated the UN clauses.
Many dictators ( including Nazis and fascists ) in the past respected diplomacy, embassies, nation-states, the Geneva Convention, and political exiles.
The President of Colombia said: We are reaching the end of the nation-state. The Nazis and the Fascists advocated for extreme nationalism
This is not fascism, this is capitalist gangsterism. The Italian fascists were Boy Scouts compared to these capitalist gangsters.
Mussolini passed several laws to limit the Sicilian mafia, and during WW2, the US capitalists made alliances with the Sicilian mafiosos.
Donald Trump is openly doing what other US presidents have done in the past, including Roosevelt and Kennedy
One Nazis general disobeyed the destruction of Paris; he did not want to destroy the beautiful creation of mankind.
Many infrastructures in Iran took thousands of years to be built by the Persian civilisation.
Wherever they place their military boots, they destroy everything, like the Museum of Baghdad.
The destruction of civilian infrastructure in Iran can result in the death of millions of human beings. The real danger in our society is capitalism, it is not fascism
https://socialismoryourmoneyback.blogspot.com/2026/04/tuesday.html.
I do not think that the word Fascism has been dismissed in our analysis. We are trying to place it in its own historical and economic context and within its proper definition and meaning. What the left has done is to distort the concept of socialism to the point that we should change the name.
The killing of almost 70 million natives and the genocide of 50 millions of african slaves was another Holocaust, as Fredrik Douglas said: Your 4th of July is not our Fourth of July, and the native calls the so-called discovery of America a day of sorrow. It was the settlers’ colonialism
://nmaahc.si.edu/explore/stories/nations-story-what-slave-fourth-july
When Trump is gone in three years, the same cycle of wars and crises and despoliation and pollution and holocausts on nature will continue under another President, Republican or Democrat, and that has nothing to do with Fascism (a dead Italian movement), but everything to do with modern capitalism.
Similar protests will continue after Trump is forgotten, and leftists will still be shouting about “fascism” and activists of every type protesting about this and that, and still ignoring and poo-pooing our message. And so it goes on.——————————————————
Joe Biden was the president who provoked the war in Ukraine; the Russians tried to settle the situation through diplomacy, and the US rejected it because it wanted NATO to install missiles next to the Russian border. Biden submitted several war budgets to Congress, and they were approved by the Democrats; the Republicans became anti warmongers.
Obama continued the same wars started by George Bush and the Republicans, and he was doing the same killing that was done by George Bush, and statistics were showing that the USA was dropping more bombs than the Arabs resistance, and he made an alliance
with the terrorists, and Joe Biden also allied with the terrorists to overthrow the government of Syria.With or without Trump and others, capitalism will continue like Johnny Walker, business as usual. The leftists are saying that the US is a society without a king, but in 1776, one king was replaced by another king; the president is like an English king surrounded by a congress. New landlords took over, and oligarchy has existed since the very beginning; it did not start with Donald Trump.
The leftwingers want their democracy back, which democracy did they have before? The same old capitalist democracy that was started in 1776, the democracy of the capitalist class, that democracy has not been eliminated, still the capitalists have full control of all the wages slaves, the state apparatus and the means of production, the elimination of social benefits is not a fascist measures, it has been taking place all over the world, since the decline of the post war boom and the failure of the social democrats.
The leftists call Nazis to a small group of town peoples carrying nazis flags, they are poor peoples, that are unemployed, they support capitalism like most others workers, they cannot even pay their rents, some are renting house basements, they do not have any popular support they do not have the same scientific backgrounds as the German nazis, they do not have the same industrial powerhouse and economic and military power that the German nazis had.
If Fascism is war, xenophobia, and racism, most democrats’ leaders are fascists too, and some third-world countries are fascists too. In Chile, all candidates ( leftist and rightists ) run a racist and xenophobic campaign; therefore, they must be fascist too.
Obama and Biden deported more third-world workers than Donald Trump, and he has not been able to fulfil his daily quota as he was planning to do
The leftwingers are saying that the new president of Chile is a Nazis because his father was a german nazis when he was 18, which means that he inherited his father’s political views, which is pure idealism.m
Racism and anti-Semitism were not the main characteristics of Nazism when England and France were racist empires in Africa, Asia, and the USA supported African slavery and ethnic separation within their own territory.
When the war ended, many black soldiers preferred to stay in Germany, and they considered that they had more freedom and less discrimination
Anti-Semitism was widely expanded within the USA, and several ships with Jewish refugees from Germany were not allowed to disembark in New York.
The Cuban government tried to provide asylum to them, but the US rejected it, and one Caribbean dictator allowed some Jews to become refugees and a sanctuary for them was created in Sosua to work in agricultural lands
The US government would have been forced to locate the jews emigrants in Ghettos along with the blacks, the asian and the Latinos because the Jews were viewed as black too, and the Italians were called pale blacks, or swart
The Socialist Party wrote that without Marx and Engels, they would have created their own socialist conceptions.
Without Adolf Hitler and without Benito Mussolini, fascism and nazism would have existed in Italy and Germany, and World War II would have taken place; the same capitalist rivalries would have existed
Anti-Nazism was the pretext used by England, France, and the USA to stop the economic expansion of German capitalism, and the Soviet Union joined the same game after they were allied with the Nazis.
State capitalism in Germany was very successful, to the point that Roosevelt said that a similar system should have been established in the US, because many US corporations were making high profits, but the limited political bourgeois democracy of the US would not have allowed it
The left-wingers are not satisfied with the old Stalinist and Trotskyist definition of Fascism, and now, they have created a new one known as Post fascism ( like a liberal form of fascism ), used for electoral purposes.
It is a new devil used to scare the working class, and it worked in Chile, but it did not work the second time. Workers elected a right-wing populist, because the so called anti fascists failed
CDM – All I can say is that in June 2024, I had an article published in the Standard entitled ‘Fascism as Ideology,’ which was a refutation of all that you write about, ve and I received no criticism from the editors or the membership. So I think this is an ongoing debate rather than Party policy.
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There are articles in the SS which in some way refute certain prevailing principles of the socialist party, and the editors have published them, but most articles in the SS support the general principles of the Socialist Party. In this forum, there are members of the socialist party who some time refutes certain ideas of the socialist party too. On Facebook, some members of the Socialist Party have had certain disagreements
That topic was already discussed in this forum, and it was indicated that fascism is not an ideology and that communism is against all types of ideology.
Most articles on the SS indicated that Fascism/Nazism is a form of administering capitalism, and that the prevailing ideology in this society is the capitalist or bourgeois ideology. Ideology is a distortion of our reality and a false consciousness, and the prevailing ideas in any class society are the ideas of the ruling class.
Fascism and anti-fascism are an obsession of the left of capitalism, but they do not see that the main danger to mankind is capitalism. There is no fascism, and there are no fascists.
The main problem is capitalism, it is not fascism, and the main problem in the USA is not Donald Trump; it is capitalism, and he can be replaced by another warmonger, as it has been done in prior occasions, as Obama was called George Bush part 2 .
Nationalist protests and marches will never stop the war plans of the ruling class. Even more, an anti-war movement has never existed; they have always supported one side of the conflicts, as was the case with the Vietnam War, and the case of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, many left wings are supporting their reactionary leaders, the so-called patriotic war of the soviet union.
The Socialist Party had many confrontations and difficulties during World War II because our idea was that anti fascism was not the correct tactic, but the most important one was the struggle against capitalism. Stalinists and Trotskyists gave us a hard time, and the SP had a public debate with fascists
I stick to my gun that Fascism is ultra nationalism and apologism of the dictatorship of a single party, and it was a particular phenomenon adopted by German and Italian capitalism, and based on the present economic reality of those two countries, fascism and nazis will not be established again
Why is it so easy for the US now to crush Cuba, after so many decades of “face off”?
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Capitalism has reached a new phase in our times, and the situation in Latin America has changed too, and Cuba has been squeezed more in our time than in prior epochs, and Cuban state capitalism is in a deeper crisis than in prior epoch too, and at the present time capitalism has removed its hypocritical masks of national sovereignty, human rights, and constitutional rights, and openly they are showing their own aims and interests against other countries, workers have elected leaders who do not care about those principles anymore, like in the case of the USA and Brasil, Trump openly has said that he is willing to depose and destroy cuba, and public said that he is going to destroy Iran, before there was not any president that was openly committed to those criminals threats .Italy, Germany and Spain did not have the same solidified capitalist democracy as France, England and the USA during the 1930. They do have now, and Fascism can not be established in those countries in this epoch . Donald Trump has been limited on several of his attempt to establish his authoritarian measures.
From the Socialist Standard
One thing that Italy and Germany had in common was that they were relatively recent unified states, in 1870 and 1871 respectively. As a result, feelings of national unity were not as strong as in longer-established states such as Britain and France. The more virulent nationalism there reflected the ruling class’s need for a stronger central state that could overcome the remaining regionalist loyalties.In the case of Germany, its attempt in 1914 to get a place in the sun commensurate with its industrial and trading strength, inevitably at the expense of Britain and France which had carved out substantial colonial empires for themselves, had failed. But the problem remained for their capitalist class and any second attempt was going to be more aggressive because more desperate.
Fascism, then, in its proper sense was an inter-world-war historical phenomenon which is not going to repeat itself because the conditions of that time are not going to. In this sense classical fascism is not a threat. So why ‘anti-fascism’ today?
