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  • in reply to: China and Statism #267064

    Grandpa still hasn’t explained how Mao took power by coup d’état, which, as we know, he didn’t. Not of the country. He did, however, browbeat his way to control of the “Communist” Party, but that was during the Long March.

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    You will not get the answer, and probably he has not read the five volumes of Mao Tse-tung, or Peking Review, to have an idea of what the leftists call Mao Tse-tung thought; it is all pure state capitalism, a similar society described by Marx in his ethnological notebooks on the Asiatic mode of production. Or the critiques made by Enver Hoxha of Mao Tse-tung thought and the Chinese economy.

    Stalin also took control of the central committee of the communist party using different manoeuvres and defeated Leon Trotsky because he lost popularity among the russian workers, and the workers did not want a military figure. Stalin knew the real definition of socialism; he was better versed than Mao and Trotsky.

    The ones who have taken power by coup d’etat are the governments, the economic system and the leaders that he is defending.

    The USA has placed, by coup, hundreds of leaders and military juntas around the whole world, especially in Latin America, and they have forced democratically elected leaders to resign, like Juan Bosh after six months in his presidency, with the pretext of being a communist, and he was a liberal social democrat.

    Ironically, the president of Haiti, who was an ex-Jesuit priest, was overthrown by a coup, and he was also forced to resign, and he was deported to Africa, and he was not allowed to come back to Haiti.

    Zelaya was removed in pyjamas from his presidential residence, and he was overthrown, and Nicolas Maduro was overthrown and kidnapped by the USA, and Salvador Allende was overthrown by a coup, killing more than 30,000 people; another fake narrative about communism. More than 132 invasions to consolidate exploitation and robbery

    Ironically, most of these so called anti communists anpro-capitalistts wage slaves have never read or understood the works of Marx and Engels; they are just repeaters, and now, with the emergence of AI, they are experts at copy and paste, posting bottled informations

    In our time, people ( including intellectuals) are just echoes of the capitalist class, and they worship their own leaders like gods, and the so-called nationalist Christians are worse than the non-Christians, and they are also experts on communism, and they have not read one page of the communist manifesto, and sometimes they come to this forum pretending to teach on communism, and they are just a bunch of amateurs; the only way to learn about socialism is reading the proper sources

    The socialist party is the only political working-class party that knows the real definition of socialism. We are not a large organisation because we are not reformists and we are not Leninist. We cannot compete with the reformists; they will win the contest. People are so confused that the US democratic party has been labelled as a communist party, and there are peasants in other countries who know the difference between communism and social democracy. The Democratic Party does not even qualify to be called a social democratic party, and it is not a member of the Bernsteinian Socialist International; moreover, many democratic socialists do not know anything about edward bernstein

    in reply to: China and Statism #267063

    The same argument you are using, “look how prosperous we are”, was used in the UK even up to the1950s0 – 60s (MacMillan’s “affluent society”)

    As Marx wrote, capital comes into the world “dripping from head to toe, from every pore, with blood and dirt”

    It’s the same in China, as in the UK, Russia.

    And if you think the UA is any different,t try reading books such as My Heart at Wounded Knee

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    In the USA, people do not read any books or newspapers, just Marvel comics books; bookstores and libraries are being closed, and 99.9% of the workers do not have a clue what socialism really is, and they do not know the real history of the USA; it is all based on mythology.

    People just repeat like parrots what their leaders tell them. They do not know that 1776 is the foundation of US capitalism, which was founded by robbery, land expropriation, settler colonialism, killing, genocide, slavery, and wars.

    The whole Southwest was stolen and expropriated from Mexico through wars and killing; the USA was going to be a small republic surrounded by several larger republics with more natural resources, more cultural diversity and different languages

    Most teachers who were teaching the real history of those territories and their inhabitants were laid off; the reality is that the school textbooks are based on mythologies like the fake history of the bible.

    It has been described by the historians Francis Jennings and Howard Zinn; they want to ban their books from the educational system and libraries.

    Jennings shows the great advancement of the Cherokees, Apaches and the Comanches, which have been portrayed as savages and ignorant, and he called the so-called Puritan colonies a genocidal invasion, and the natives as the real founders of the so-called Americas. named after an agent of European colonialism

    There are Latin American historians who know more about the real history than any US historian, and their books are school textbooks which have not been banned; Galeano’s books should be part of the USA school system, but they will open the eyes and minds of the young people. Some of them are based on the materialist conception of history, which is the correct method to study history instead of religious idealism.

    in reply to: Jesus. #267057

    I do not think that everything that I learned from the Jesuits, the Salesians and the Lasallian brothers was totally negative. The monastic nuns and sisters who took care of us were good women dedicated to their beliefs

    in reply to: China and Statism #267054

    Similar to the 5-year socialist planning of the soviet union initiated by Stalin, they were just capitalist planning for the development of capitalism based on a semi-feudal society.

    Raya Dunayevskaya analysed the Soviet Five-Year Plans as proof that the USSR was state-capitalist rather than socialist or a true workers’ state.

    Key Arguments on the Five-Year Plans

    • State-Capitalism: Dunayevskaya argued that abolishing private property did not eliminate capitalism. Instead of private capitalists, the Soviet state itself acted as a single total capitalist monopolising the means of production and alienating the direct producers.
    • The Law of Value: She was among the first Marxist theorists to analyse the initial Soviet Five-Year Plans through the lens of Marxist economics, asserting that the Soviet economy remained dominated by the law of value and capital accumulation over human consumption.
    • Exploitation of Labour: State planning did not liberate workers; instead, it subjected them to intensive wage-slavery mechanisms like piecework, Stakhanovism (state-sponsored worker productivity competition), and forced labour to extract surplus value.
    • Break with Trotsky: This study led to her political break with Leon Trotsky in 1939, as she rejected his view that the USSR remained a “degenerate workers’ state” that still needed to be defended.
    Her detailed findings on the plans were further elaborated in her writings, including her 1946 essay “The Nature of the Russian Economy” and her book Marxism and Freedom.

    Besides all that, the Soviet leaders introduced the Ford assembly line in the production of commodities. Marx Capital was completely applicable to the Soviet Union

    ttps://www.marxists.org/archive/dunayevskaya/works/1942/russian-economy/ch04.htm.

    in reply to: Jesus. #267049

    It is interesting to read and study them from a materialist point of view, but most secular atheists do not have a materialistic point of view, and they do not know that religion had a materialistic origin

    in reply to: Socialism not Communism #267043

    That is why the capitalist class created a pseudoscience known as social Darwinism. It has been proven thousands of times that the so-called greedy and selfish nature of humans is totally wrong. It has been used to justify the capitalists’ need to exploit humans and produce profits, and to justify wars and killing. That theory has been debunked thousands of times. That is a very old bourgeois lie; human society evolved based on mutual cooperation

    Human behaviours are socially learned, and the bourgeois ideology (distortion of reality, or false consciene ) has produced a large influence in the minds of humans

    Are We Prisoners of our Genes?

    in reply to: Socialism not Communism #266974

    Just a quick question, Grandpa.

    In another thread, you say that:

    “What large industries we had left Thatcher destroyed in the 80s”

    By saying “we,” I assume you were part of the ownership of those industries.

    Which part of the “large industries” did you own?

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    Some wage slaves call themselves capitalists because they support and defend capitalism, the are pro-capitalists, and the only thing that they own is their labour force, and they are living from paycheck to paycheck; if they miss one, they will go into bankruptcy. Some pro-capitalists are living in their parents’ basement because they cannot afford the rent for a room.

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    in reply to: Jesus. #266932

    The same old crap about Jesus’ divinity. Several religious groups have been struggling for several centuries over a mythological figure. Personally, I prefer Greek mythology, which was part of my Humanities classes along with the Divine Comedy and Goethe. The so-called pre-diluvian narratives are as mythological as the rest of the bible

    in reply to: Jesus. #266919

    Christianity could have been born on Mars, and we would not make any difference, and a new Bible of 88 books would not make any difference either. It is only a mythology that will not liberate mankind. The latest archaeological study has proven that the whole bible is a false narrative created by scribes; religious leaders are just repeating old false conceptions, and the latest paleopathological findings have debunked the Genesis book completely; we were not created; we evolved from African apes. The whole thing has fallen apart, and the Exodus narrative is completely false; it has been proven that the desert could have been crossed in 14 days rather than 40 years. They spent most of their time in Canaan

    in reply to: Brazil #266875

    https://www.cnn.com/2026/10/26/americas/brazil-election-results-takeaways-latam-hk-intl

    Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva made history on Sunday.

    He became Brazil’s first president to win a fourth term– and he did so days before turning 81, an age when many other leaders decide to leave politics behind.

    The Brazilian president’s remarkable comeback against his right-wing rival, Flávio Bolsonaro, also set another record. Since Brazil’s return to democracy in 1985, no president had managed to overturn a first-round defeat. The Workers’ Party candidate added more than 10 million votes in the three weeks between the two rounds of voting, while his rival gained just 3.6 million.

    in reply to: Jesus. #266864

    The Ethiopian Bible. 14 more books; it is still a book of narratives based on mythologies

    in reply to: French Tensions #266822

    Capitalism—the real enemy: The case of Germany

    As this article explains, our real enemy is capitalism. It was the real enemy of mankind before, during and after World War 2; it is mankind’s enemy at present. Left-wingers have spent their whole lives blaming the problems on neoliberalism, and now their favourite toy is fascism; they see fascism all over the earth; any movement is fascism, as the right-winger sees any movement as communism. Right-wing populism and fascism are not the problem, and in a society with a long tradition of bourgeois democracy, a personal dictatorship can be established

    in reply to: French Tensions #266807
    in reply to: French Tensions #266806

    When Alan Johnston was in charge of SOYMB ( Socialism and Your Money Back), he used to publish news and articles almost every day. He used to combine concepts and ideas from different places and groups into one article and inserted Socialist Party concepts into those articles. The SS only published articles once a month. On the internet, I do the same thing

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