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ParticipantRobbo —Is the version of The “Economic Calculation” Controversy that you recently posted to Dissident Voice ( https://dissidentvoice.org/2020/03/the-economic-calculation-controversy ),
which the tireless jondwhite has even more recently posted as PDF on libcom (https://libcom.org/files/The_Economic_Calculation_Controversy_Dissident_Voice.pdf ) the same as what you published under the same title in Common Voice in 2005, or is it revised? A lazy question. I have not read the new (?) one but from looking at scattered sentences it seems to be identical. If changes have been made (I mean of content, not phrasing etc),of what nature are they?ZJW
ParticipantRobbo — Given that you used to write things there (your thread https://libcom.org/forums/thought/economic-calculation-argument which you began in 2007 and seem to have abandoned in 2010 even though others unsatisfactorily continued it in your absence until 2014), is it reasonable to assume that you still look at libcom from time to time, and saw https://libcom.org/library/ll-men-two-texts-defining-communist-programme, and saw my note (second post under it)?I would like to ask what you think of LLM’s demolition of the myth of ‘war “communism” ‘ vs that of Binay Sarkar. (I find the latter’s nearly incomprehensible.)If I am polluting this thread with off-topic content, a moderator will please move this post elsewhere.ZJW
ParticipantWhat a tragic line of development for SW. Something to this effect: Gilles Dauvé-influenced Watkins/Flynn “communist faction” (was that the name?) within the SPGB (That’s when he first came to my attention.) Leaves party. Becomes Chris Knight supporter. Rejoins party (no longer espousing heterodox views). Leaves party a second time very shortly after just having very zealously defended the pamphlet “What’s Wrong with using Parliament?” on the CWO site (here: https://www.leftcom.org/en/articles/2011-04-17/what%E2%80%99s-wrong-with-the-spgb) ! Becomes a supporter of Left Unity. And finally, this!!He did great interviews with Mattick and with Kliman, and as Alan points out was a very good writer.ZJW
ParticipantPaul Mattick: ‘Their Money or Your Life’: https://brooklynrail.org/2020/05/field-notes/Their-Money-or-Your-LifeZJW
ParticipantAnti-mainstream view (and without conspiracy theory):
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ParticipantAnd there are two ‘Chris Wright’s. There is that dumb one, and there is also this very good one: https://libcom.org/library/stupid-regulators-greedy-financiers-or-business-usual-chris-wright
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ParticipantMondoweiss: ‘German censorship campaign targets scholar over BDS and applies “antisemitism” charge’:
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ParticipantLooking for ‘anarchic capitalists’? Well here for example: http://ronpaulinstitute.org .
Covid-skeptical, broadly along similar lines to what can be seen at https://swprs.org/contact (section ‘Articles on Covid-19’), or at https://off-guardian.org .
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ParticipantALB: What left-communist discussion forum is that?
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ParticipantMichael Roberts: ‘Lives or livelihoods?’:
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ParticipantAbolition of the wage-labor system through Covid-19, according to Jehu Eaves:
and a few days before that:ZJW
Participant<Socialism, Communism, Association—A rose by another name> contains:‘[…] he imagines ‘an association of free men (<i>sic</i>), working […]’What Marx wrote was ‘Verein freier Menschen’– association of free persons, *not* ‘Verein freier Männer’ – association of free men. (The German differentiation between ‘Mensch’ and ‘Mann’ is found throughout Germanic languages other than English.)Old-fashioned translations into English may use ‘of men’, but that is no reason to go on quoting it, then adding ‘[sic]’.Perhaps, with the agreement of the writer, ‘men’ can be corrected to ‘persons’ (or ‘individuals’?) in the internet edition of SS?Otherwise, a very fine article. of course.ZJW
ParticipantExplain the difference between co-ops and ‘communes’. ( Is the idea that the communes are food-producing and can be (relatively) autarkic?? )
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ParticipantI have this same question.
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ParticipantMaybe nothing very new here, but …map:Middle East Eye: ‘REVEALED: Trump’s ‘deal of the century’ map for a future Palestine, Israel’:Connection with IHRA:And Counter Currents: ‘Zionism’s mass psychosis is not Israel’s private affair’:excerpt:‘IHRA balances a dizzying mix of logic schisms. The Israeli state is the self-determination of Jews as Jews, but it is antisemitic to say that Jews favor Israel over their own nation, and it is also antisemitic to call Israel’s ethnic nationalism a racist endeavor; but then it is antisemitic to deny Israel as an ethnic nationalist state, yet it is also antisemitic to note any comparison between Israel and Nazism, no matter what Israel may ever do. Israeli citizenship offers further immunity under IHRA, but then it is antisemitic to hold Jews as a people responsible for what the Israeli state does — well, except for Zionism, which explicitly makes Jews the doers of what the Israeli state does — but then it is antisemitic to point this out.’ -
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