Anti-Zionism is not anti-semitic

July 2020 Forums General discussion Anti-Zionism is not anti-semitic

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    alanjjohnstone
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    https://www.dw.com/en/why-achille-mbembe-was-accused-of-anti-semitism/a-53293797

    Achille Mbembe  has been accused of anti-Semitism and hatred of Israel. He claims that the “shameful allegations” against him are unfounded. “Everything I have ever written or said rests on a single foundation, namely the hope for the development of a truly universal community, from which no one is excluded,”

    #203544
    alanjjohnstone
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    Just a reminder that opposition to Israeli government policy is not anti-semitism

    https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-israel-palestinians-annexation-protes/israelis-protest-netanyahus-annexation-plan-idUKKBN23D0SO

    Thousands of Israelis demonstrated on Saturday against Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s plan to extend sovereignty over parts of the occupied West Bank, de-facto annexation of land that the Palestinians seek for a state… the demonstrators gathered under the banner “no to annexation, no to occupation, yes to peace and democracy.” 

    #203550
    marcos
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    Semite is not a race or an ethnic group, it is a linguistic concept,  therefore, Semitism is a historical fallacy supported by the Bible only. Judaism is a faith, it is not a nationality

    #203558
    alanjjohnstone
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    Follow up

    https://www.commondreams.org/views/2020/06/07/palestinian-lives-matter-huge-jewish-arab-rally-tel-aviv-decries-netanyahus-plan

    The head of the center-left Meretz Party, Nitzan Horowitz, addressed the huge rally, saying, “Annexation is a war crime, a crime against humanity and against peace, a crime against democracy, a crime that will cost us blood.”

    It was the biggest demonstration by the Israeli left wing in many years, and was remarkable for its mixed character, with both Jewish and Palestinian Israelis coming out.

    #203727
    alanjjohnstone
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    In 2012 the Israeli newspaper Haaretz reported on a poll suggesting that at least one-third of Israelis would consider emigrating abroad if the opportunity presented itself. This was not to be temporary phenomenon. An updated 2018 Newsweek article stated that “Israel celebrates its 70th birthday in May with the opening of the U.S. Embassy in Jerusalem. Yet the country is grappling with an existential crisis. … Spurred by the high cost of living, low salaries, and political and demographic trends, Israelis are leaving the country in droves.” Given the fact that “Israel has one of the highest poverty rates and levels of income inequality in the Western world,” you can see why the notion that Israel is “absolutely essential … to the security of Jews around the world” is up for debate among Jews themselves.

    Israel Loses Its Best

    #204284
    alanjjohnstone
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    Hard-liner Tzipi Hotovely, Israel’s settlements minister, has been namedas ambassador to the UK.

    She has described herself as “a religious rightwinger” and rejects Palestinian claims to any part of the West Bank, Gaza or East Jerusalem. In a speech in 2015, she said Israel had tried too hard to appease the world. “This land is ours. All of it is ours. We did not come here to apologise for that.”

    800 British Jews have signed a petition posted online by the anti-occupation campaign group Na’amod highlighting Hotovely’s “appalling record of racist and inflammatory behaviour” and calling on the UK government to reject her nomination as ambassador. The appointment of envoys requires the approval of the host country. A counter-petition supporting Hotovely attracted 240 signatures.
    <p class=”css-h6rhrn”>A spokesperson for Na’amod said: “There is clearly growing unrest in our community about Israel’s blatant disregard for human rights, and people increasingly realise that it is time to take a stand.”</p>
    <p class=”css-h6rhrn”>Laura Janner-Klausner, the senior rabbi to Reform Judaism, also criticised Hotovely’s record. “Her political views on Palestinians, annexation and religious pluralism clash with our core values,” she said.</p>
    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/jun/20/outrage-as-hardliner-tzipi-hotovely-is-chosen-as-next-israeli-ambassador-to-uk

    Hotovely launched an outspoken attack on the Board of Deputies over its support for a Palestinian state in its 2019 Jewish Manifesto. She accused the Board of failing to consult “Israel’s Ministry of Foreign Affairs, our ambassador, any other political authority” ahead of the manifesto’s release.

    In 2017 her talk at Princeton University was cancelled following a petition by a student group called the Alliance of Jewish Progressives.

    #204567
    Matthew Culbert
    Keymaster

    An indirect link here asking questions, if not providing any answers ,about the politics behind the ‘sacrality’ of Holocaust remembrance.

    #204638
    ZJW
    Participant

    WSWS: ‘UK Labour leader Keir Starmer uses bogus anti-Semitism accusation to sack Rebecca Long-Bailey’:

     

    #204644
    ALB
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    To be fair, the statement that Long-Bailey didn’t object to was anti-Semitic even if maybe not intentional. Why bring the Israeli secret service into it unless you’ve got an agenda? It  was also incorrect. See:

    https://www.channel4.com/news/factcheck/factcheck-did-israeli-secret-service-teach-floyd-police-to-kneel-on-neck

    Long-Bailey was being  either naive or more probably arrogant in refusing to remove her endorsement of the article as she thought she was irremovable. We don’t need to shed any tears over her fate as she slides down the greasy pole a bit.

    #204774
    alanjjohnstone
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    #204777
    ALB
    Participant

    Even Peake has admitted that she was wrong, tweeting “I feel it’s important for me to clarify that, when talking to The Independent, I was inaccurate in my assumption of American Police training & its sources.” She didn’t explain why she immediately jumped to the conclusion that the Israeli secret service must have been involved.

    According to Cook, she also thinks that we are being ruled by “capitalist, fascist dictators”, another indication of how prone she is to conspiracy theories. On the other hand, she might just be a joke. Citizeness Smith.

     

     

    #204907
    alanjjohnstone
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    https://dissidentvoice.org/2020/07/the-battle-of-seattle-was-fought-by-the-pro-war-left-in-northern-syria/

    “The ideological inspiration for the Rojava federation is the Jewish-American Zionist anarchist philosopher Murray Bookchin who was especially influential to PKK founder Abdullah Öcalan. Unbeknownst to many, Bookchin was also a noted Zionist — but this is not as unlikely a paradox as it may seem. After all, Israel itself was initially established with the settlement of communes and the Zionist form of “autonomous zones” known as kibbutz (“gathering” in Hebrew).”

    “One other highly influential thinker in the anarchist community who purports to be a ‘libertarian socialist’, Noam Chomsky, was himself part of the Zionist kibbutz movement in his youth.”

    The criticism of Bookchin’s  analysis of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict  is very a-historical when Bookchin tries to offer another interpretation of events. I can cite chapter and verse of left-wing pro-Jewish criticism of the British anti-Jewish immigration policy of the era.

     

     

     

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