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ParticipantHaving just re-read his long and excellent book review titled ‘More FALC: The Walmart hypothesis’, I nominate Pik Smeet to review the Tony Smith book.
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ParticipantALB wrote:
‘The author knows us having visited our street stall in Cardiff and also written a couple of letters to the Socialist Standard.’I only see one letter from him, the one here: https://www.worldsocialism.org/spgb/socialist-standard/2020s/2023/no-1428-august-2023/letters-moysan-graham-morris/
I remember that letter well enough, but I did not remember his name.
If there is another letter from him, please give the url.
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ParticipantNo, Erwan Moysan is not a Cliffite. See this book review by him of ‘State Capitalism and Development in East Asia since 1945’ .
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ParticipantCorrect link for Moysan’s bibliography: click ‘Preview PDF’ here: https://www.taylorfrancis.com/books/mono/10.4324/9781003727491/marxist-analysis-soviet-economy-erwan-moysan?context=ubx&refId=c642c825-63f0-4447-9851-d68791d02105
(but I’ve now already fixed the post up above)
and when the PDF appears, scroll downward, last item in the Preview.
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ParticipantALB wrote:
‘ despite, in his view, a “proletarian revolution” having taken place there (but doomed to fail since no world revolution took place).’
He’s a … left-communist, or what? Not another Cliffite, I hope.
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ParticipantTo see the Moysan book’s very impressive bibliography, click ‘Preview PDF’ here:
[corrected link:]
Curious thing is that Paresh Chattopadhyay is there, and even the always neglected Neil Fernandez, but there is no Buick & Crump. Though there *is* ‘Buick, A. , 2020. Saving Graces, Review of ‘The Science and Passion of Communism. Selected Writings of Amadeo Bordiga’. Socialist Standard, No 1394 (October), p. 20.’
(Well, the SPGB, for its part, did not neglect Fernandez. His book was reviewed here:
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ParticipantUnrelated to the Calculation Question a Neurath-Horkheimer dispute was mentioned in the interview, For anyone who may be interested, here is, by O’Neil and Thomas Uebel, ‘Horkheimer and Neurath: Restarting a Disrupted Debate:
https://cominsitu.wordpress.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/horkheimer-neurath.pdf(Korsch’s name does not come up in this paper, though it did in the interview (as being on Neurath’s, side).
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ParticipantThis same Jacob Blumenfeld is also the author of this concisely written article ‘The Socialization Debate:
Revolutionary Confusion after the German Revolution of 1918’: https://philpapers.org/archive/BLUTSD-2.pdfZJW
ParticipantRe O’Neil:
In the book by Tony Smith that I attempted to draw attention to at https://www.worldsocialism.org/spgb/forum/topic/socialist-planning-beyond-capitalism/page/2/#post-262661 , there is this paragraph :
‘In contemporary social theory the two most well-known and influential proposals for a better, more coherent, republicanism are PROPERTY-OWNING DEMOCRACY and MARKET SOCIALISM. Both are understood here as variants of what will here be termed SOCIAL REPUBLICANISM.21 Both reject ‘state socialism’ on grounds like those given above. And both claim to overcome the incoherence of liberal democratic republicanism by rejecting the capitalist property and production relationships that undermine core principles of liberal democracy and social democracy alike. NONETHELESS, SOCIAL REPUBLICANISM ALSO DOES NOT OFFER A SATISFACTORY ALTERNATIVE TO CAPITALIST MARKET SOCIETIES.’
That footnote 21 reads:
‘Defences of property-owning democracy are found in Rawls 2001 and O’Neill and Thad Williamson 2014. For arguments for market socialism by prominent contemporary social theorists see Honneth 2017 and Piketty 2021.’
(The book referenced is: O’Neill, John, and Thad Williamson 2014, ‘Property-Owning Democracy: Rawls and Beyond’,
Hoboken, NJ: Wiley-Blackwell.)I don’t know whether to take that to mean O’Neil (/Williamson) therein themselves expressed support for so-called Property-Owning Democracy; or, if they only cited arguments in favor of it.
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ParticipantFrom the current issue of Jacobin magazine:
“But Cohen believed that rank-and-file socialists who think the LTV is obvious are moved by something other than Marx’s technical claims about value. Instead, what moves them is something like a “labor theory of things that have value,” which is very obviously true! Regardless of what value is, no commodity that has value has ever been the product of anything except some combination of (a) the nonhuman natural world and (b) human labor.”
https://jacobin.com/2022/06/karl-marx-labor-theory-of-value-ga-cohen-economics/
Later, Andrew Kliman argued against both the GA Cohen argument, and what he considered even worse, the version given by Ben Burgis: https://marxisthumanistinitiative.org/economics/marx-systematically-exploited-by-burgis-marxs-exploitation-theory-vs-g-a-cohens-plain-argument.html
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ParticipantHere is a book, published last year, that ought to be reviewed from an SPGB point-of-view: Tony Smith’s “A Socialism for the Twenty-First Century: Towards the ‘Full and Free Development of Every Individual’”:https://marxandphilosophy.org.uk/reviews/22322_a-socialism-for-the-twenty-first-century-towards-the-full-and-free-development-of-every-individual-by-tony-smith-reviewed-by-stephen-darling/
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ParticipantGauntlet thrown down:
In his most recent contribution insisting on labor-time-accounting (LTA), Hermann Lueer explicity states: ‘More than a century has passed since Otto Neurath formulated the idea of economic planning in physical units. Yet no workable method has been found that would allow producers to *self‑manage* a complex, interdependent economy on this basis.’ That’s here:https://leftdis.wordpress.com/2025/12/17/the-forgotten-logic-of-communism
Given that at start of his publication of the 2020 publication of the GIC’s [expanded 1935 version of] Fundamental Principles of Communist Production and Distribution, he gives his email — herluee@yahoo.com — he could easily be invited by Robbo or others to publicly debate his views. (In his two posts just above this one, DPP has already made a couple fundamental objections, the first of which I don’t recall having read in previous argument against LTA.)
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ParticipantFrom a few weeks back, see topmost letter (by B. Lazare) on the page at this link: https://weeklyworker.co.uk/worker/1559/letters
It’s about the Weekly Worker group’s pro-Hamas’ism.
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Participant‘Rubio Neo-conned Trump’s Ukraine Peace Plan’:
https://original.antiwar.com/daniel-mcadams/2025/11/27/rubio-neo-conned-trumps-ukraine-peace-plan/
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