L.B. Neill
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But on a positive note: is this the escalation (a kind of Ken Macleod scenario). The straw that breaks the donkey’s back…
I knew it.
1. Separate from a collective (as a nation).
2. Erode worker rights to make goods more competitive abroad.
3. Welcome to the sweatshop!There should be more steps… slow and gradual: so the nation is on board- buying into the ‘dream’. One day some oppressed supporter will say: “we made our rights and labour so cheap that we are the dominant go-to nation for jobs”. Then be made homeless after the OBE received rusts- like a Stalin Star for shovelling shit.
“I have not heard the term to be applied to peasants, but the Marxists Humanists are saying that the lumpenproletariat is going to be part of the socialist revolution which contradicts the analysis of some groups within the left”
MS, what is the story with leftism- In social science humanism is a little okay (person centred theories). When it comes to Marxism- it seems every individual for themselves- but according to a politburo say so.
I could imagine driving my tractor. Some humanist glorifies my hard work, then says the new regulations are for my humanity: as authorised by the vanguard.
I will continue to chew on straw, it seems what we do to some, and continue getting what needs to be done… and under the tyranny of state capitalism.Leftrightleftrightleftright…
They can predict all they want- but they predict a different kind of leather. Do I look good in this? Not sure- take your boot from my face and then I can tell you.
I hope this is not off topic- but the same operation applies to American elections: different leader and different boot.I will keep chewing straw.
MS, Thank you.
Some terms should be allowed to fall away. This is one term with so much flux and ambiguity- and used as a tool that seems to divide workers (and those who are unemployed).
Those who are not conscious of the oppressive nature of class domination would be further polarised within their status with such degrading terms.
It reminds me of the term ‘trailer trash’ for white Americans living on the margins. Others who are in alienated positions can hurl that term- and for a moment of perceived dominant status. Fleeting and intoxicating. Do more of it to sustain a fake high.
I will own the terms of oppressive labelling so that I can put them in their rightful place- together, united, and with no shame.
I hear a song coming on “It is a Working Man I am”! But that song needs new lyrics- to include the unemployed (or unemployable).
Not sure if America and the election narratives have included the unemployable- not even the unions have a robust argument for that.Buddhist John: vote World Socialism.
“falls in line with my religious beliefs and military value”: now this will keep my semiotic brain active for some time.
I am reminded of ” war is peace”. But I am encouraged in my next interactions with military supporters that it need not be. Choosing no to violence: choose to change the mode and flatten the power apex.
No animals/humans hurt during the flattening of the apex structure“Growing up I heard members call workers “slavish bastards” “fuckin proles” “bigots” “stupid cunts”. You name it. In fact I would say the term “Lumpen” is quite an elevated epithet.”
Really! I am offended… I am glad to call myself a peasant, potato eating academic from the wilds of the back of beyond!
What they displace in name calling: is what they actually are. That is the ruling elite fling the their identity conclusions upon their controlled ‘inferiors’ so they do not have to self evaluate these traits within their practices.I am member-less and adrift- but this is the first time I heard the term, Lumpen- sounds like a visit to the doctor! :_
Edit: I just got it! Thanks MS.
From LB, the peasant who is not a Lumpen. 🙂Alan,
I will eat all the shell snot there is- but with chilli flakes.
The irony is- we are in it as a ecological juris prudence- nature in all its entirety as one.. but we still need to eat.
I had spiders fried once, at my brother’s wedding. Soon after I learned that in SE Asia spiders had declined due to their popularity as a delicacy…
These decisions are really hard.
I am interested in the ones produced in your area and can we do it here…- 🙂 sounds yum, Jack R will contest me.Post Note:
I once ate some mealworms in a packet of nuts that had been left in the pantry.
After a few beers I thought- nuts would be nice.
After devouring half the packet I realised the nuts moved about- then noticed the wiggly things. In horror or in sheer surrender, I thought: okay time for bed.
The next day I was still alive- and no hang over.
Nowadays, I am far from a food snob (hope I never was). Like the idea of cultured meat better- we need biomass left alone for our eco.Alternative food will add to the future of consumption…
But:
During the Irish famine the potato crop failed and people starved. The potato was introduced to the diet as a staple food, so we would not eat grains. The landlords thought: let them eat potato, so they could make a profit from exporting grains away from Ireland. And even during the famine grains had been exported.
If this becomes a possible food- let it be food for all.
But there is another problem: The bio mass of insects is declining globally. What next?
Insect (our little worms of all kinds too) biomass is essential for the ecosystem.My Jack R will have cookie ice cream while I eat the last of the locusts and mealworms.
Actions and reactions: oh the choice.“No animals were harmed during the incident.”
When a shelter worker is held up at gunpoint- I have to ask about human welfare too…
The report above comments are soothing for the animal rights activists- but we do need balances of some kind. The worker would have experienced significant psychological harm.
Achebe one said: save me from the humanitarian! I wonder if any slogan that can help others see the reality: well, ‘change the mode’… we can put rights activist patches all over the current mode, but it will be ongoingAlan,
“I recall the reaction i got during the miners strike in the 80s when they were collecting groceries for miners at the supermarkets and i donated a couple of cans of dog-food. If looks could kill…”When I was 16, some younger kids knocked on the door collecting sweets for the Halloween fire night- I put dog biscuits in their outstretched bags- well they may have had pet dogs. They nearly beat me up!
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I have a Jack Russel,
The pet industry can seem mad, and yet I agree with robbo: pets are a great joy to humanity, and improve mental well being… I hope it is symbiotic.
My Jack R thinks he is Napoleon, likely a hang up from his past experiencing. He is rescued too… We are a critical bunch, yet with kind hearted cores.Life- too long to think: and too short to put it together.
Forget the snake oil: but the way forward is changing the base to socialism, look forward to it really… if not in my life… then the material end of the history of the class struggle will end in my kids time.
Until then… educate as best I can, put up with the bumps, and know I did my realistic best- but not alone.Thanks Matt,
I am not into any alchemy that waters down the class struggle towards a socialist mode of production. The SPGB offers the most pragmatic and how things are approach- and I am very happy posting here, and not to mention promoting it to my friends.
I had once participated in reformism, a little while, but then reality hit… the impossibility of Capitalism to even want reform.
I am certainly of fixture on the forum now and will continue… it just makes sense, the SP way forward. That is, if you can tolerate my quirks.
I know I am a paradox: faith and socialism. But I embrace that schism- the human consciousness is capable of it. A materialist dreamer, but in a good way.
The clarity of SP analysis makes sense to me… Surprised you overlooked one or two posts that might have said something about my faith… made me smile.
I think oil and water taste just fine! Emulsifiers help too- perhaps I am the emulsifier that blends it in my own experiencing.
🙂I get it BD,
Fist full of pancakes- and not a clue what to do.
But it is good they had no idea- or who knows what!
Regarding the deaths, not of the cholesterol guzzlers, but of the others… sad.
They should trade in their guns for football boots: much safer.Bijou Drains,
What an image!
… Such a loss of humanity when people are killed for a lie. These right wing vanguards- for want of a term- have taken lives for a deceit.
… There may be a momentary media ban to stop the distribution of extremism pouring out of the White House’s porcelain throne, but the tarnish will stink for a time to come.
No one deserves to be killed in a mob- not ever
