Was Jesus a Collaborator?

September 2021 Forums General discussion Was Jesus a Collaborator?

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    Matthew Culbert
    Keymaster

    I think I have earnestly posted in a past thread that I belong to a community of faith. The metaphor of oil and water: socialism struggles to mix with faith, is one that I might not agree with. But that is okay.

    I hadn’t noticed that and it doesn’t matter. I like reading your stuff. Some of Thomas’s also but,

    A friendly discourse suits me and and I am sure, us.

    But,there is a class struggle going on and no matter how fascinating all our different approaches to, ‘making it through the night’ are, socialists are in the business of making revolutionaries and the MCH is a more than adequate tool properly utilised.

    We made clear analytical conclusions, while the Left were enchanted and dithering about and Red Deans and other really ‘nice kindly people‘, were seeing the ‘Future Working‘ out in Russia.

    A lot of ‘alchemy’ going on then too. Then in China. We have been dealing with the effects of it ever since.

    We have to be correct.

    A lot of ‘alchemy’ going on then, also in the midst of the First Great Slaughter.

    We never take away from the fact there were people from different perspectives, idealistic or morally, coming to similar conclusions about some, if not all of that. We have given credit to and for them. A testament to very common human impulses.

    But our ‘whys?’ and ‘hows?, would be different. Most people are just muddling through trying to make some sense of it all.

    They are prey to ‘herding’ and manipulative meddling, by erstwhile leaders in their searches, for some degree of ‘certainty‘.

    We do not want this and want ‘thinkers’ for the cause. Great, if alongside us, but absolutely Hunky Dory if the idea of a post-class society where production for use and free access is percolating.

    There is no certainty within this class society, save poverty, relative and or, absolute and war, by deed or by proxy.

    #212274
    L.B. Neill
    Participant

    Thanks Matt,
    I am not into any alchemy that waters down the class struggle towards a socialist mode of production. The SPGB offers the most pragmatic and how things are approach- and I am very happy posting here, and not to mention promoting it to my friends.
    I had once participated in reformism, a little while, but then reality hit… the impossibility of Capitalism to even want reform.
    I am certainly of fixture on the forum now and will continue… it just makes sense, the SP way forward. That is, if you can tolerate my quirks.
    I know I am a paradox: faith and socialism. But I embrace that schism- the human consciousness is capable of it. A materialist dreamer, but in a good way.
    The clarity of SP analysis makes sense to me… Surprised you overlooked one or two posts that might have said something about my faith… made me smile.
    I think oil and water taste just fine! Emulsifiers help too- perhaps I am the emulsifier that blends it in my own experiencing.
    🙂

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    #212279
    Matthew Culbert
    Keymaster

    Surprised you overlooked one or two posts that might have said something about my faith… made me smile.

    I tend to speed read and skim posts on here, I am usually busy elsewhere on the website. It is snippy posts, leading to tempestous outbursts and reactions, that I take issue with.

    Snake oil is easily challenged.

    Life is too damn short, to be wasted in negative energy.

    #212281
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    Or, as Stan Laurel said:
    “Life isn’t short enough.”

    #212283
    L.B. Neill
    Participant

    Life- too long to think: and too short to put it together.
    Forget the snake oil: but the way forward is changing the base to socialism, look forward to it really… if not in my life… then the material end of the history of the class struggle will end in my kids time.
    Until then… educate as best I can, put up with the bumps, and know I did my realistic best- but not alone.

    #212288
    Matthew Culbert
    Keymaster

    Or, as Stan Laurel said:
    “Life isn’t short enough.”Or, as Stan Laurel said:

    At last you’re using my brain. 🙂

    #212291
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    😀

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