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https://www.gutenberg.org/cache/epub/58967/pg58967-images.html
THE PROCURATOR OF JUDĂA
by Anatole France.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SUoWWHCCdEE. ( It has subtitles in different languages )
This archaeologist and historical investigator indicates that the kingdom of David and the kingdom of Solomon never existed; therefore, according to his investigation ( and the investigation made by the University of Tel-Aviv ), the house of David never existed, and the so-called Jesus does not come from the House of David either; all the ancestors of the mythology of Jesus did not come from the House of David
Plus, even had David existed, Jesus wouldn’t be in his line of descent, because Joseph wasn’t his father and hadn’t lain with Mary.
Btw, the Protoevangelion states that Joseph was 80 when Jesus was born, and Mary 13. (Not something publicised today in school Nativity plays!đ)
Except for Unitarians, and possibly Quakers, all modern Christians, no matter how different their rites and look, subscribe to Nicaean, Athanasian, trinitarian Christianity. They assume the writers of their New Testament did as well. But none of them did. Because trinitarian Christianity was very, very late on the scene. 4th century to be precise. “Orthodoxy” did not exist when the New Testament was completed.
Even after Athanasius of Alexandria had forced through the Nicene Creed, the emperor Constantine remained sympathetic to the unitarian Arians. Constantine’s son was an Arian and so were four other emperors. Constantine was baptised on his death bed by an Arian bishop, and Athanasius was exiled. So Nicaea consolidated nothing.Btw, the Protoevangelion states that Joseph was 80 when Jesus was born, and Mary was 13. (Not something publicised today in school Nativity plays!đ)
Viagra did not exist in that time, and aphrodisiacs do not help either.
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I told an evangelical pastor that Joseph, Jehovah, and Abraham were paedophiles, and Noah was incestuous, and Israel was bigamist, and the guy went hysterical. All of them, in modern times, would be in jail for criminal actions.The real historical account is that they did not exist either; none of the individuals mentioned in the Bible existed; it is a Hebrew invention.
This historian has also indicated that the Ten Commandments existed thousands of years before the Decalogue of Moses. The comedian George Carlin reduced to three
At law school, teachers teach that the world’s laws are based on Moses’ law, but in reality they are based on the Sumerian and Egyptian legal system, thereofre the Roman, French and English codes are not so advanced; they are old laws.The Nationalist Christians want the states to adopt the Ten Commandments, but those are backward, obsolete, and reactionary laws implemented in backward societies which did not resolve any social or economic problems; it would be better to adopt Buddhist principles.
What? Christian Nationalists want to be forbidden to kill? I can’t believe that.
Practically all the bizarre backwater killings in the U.S. are in the Bible belt, aren’t they?
What? Christian Nationalists want to be forbidden to kill? I canât believe that.
Practically all the bizarre backwater killings in the U.S. are in the Bible Belt, arenât they?
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I did not say that; the bible is full of killing and genocides. The killings take place in the South, the North, the East, and the West. They think that by adopting the Ten Commandments in schools, courts, and governement peoples will bring moral traditional values back again. They do not care about the killing when they support genocides and wars. They are against abortion, but they do not care if children die due to lack of food, medical services and diseases, especially foreigners. Most of them are old men who discriminate against women. It is a complete reactionary backward movement .
Killing is the national sport of the USA; there are more guns than inhabitants, schools and universities, and in some churches pastors carry guns too
Christian nationalists push to display the Ten Commandments in public schools to promote the belief that the United States is fundamentally a Christian nation. They believe that integrating these religious texts into classrooms restores public morality, counters secularism, and shapes the cultural and political values of the next generation.
Key motivations behind this movement include:Restoring the Nationâs “Moral Fabric”: Proponents argue that introducing the Ten Commandments and the Bible brings divine guidance and foundational morality back to public education. They often blame the removal of school-led prayer and Bible reading for broader societal and cultural shifts.
Claiming Historical Heritage: Many advocates claim the United States government is based on the Bible. They promote the commandments as historical documents that reflect foundational “Judeo-Christian” legal and social traditions, despite historical debate over these assertions.
Shaping National Identity: The movement views public education as a primary tool for shaping national ideology. Supporters believe that exposing children to Christian principles early on is essential to preserving conservative Christian values in the country’s future.
Changing Legal Precedent: Backers of these mandates aim to use favourable court rulings to weaken the separation of church and state, creating an environment where religious expression is more easily intertwined with government institutions.
Critics, including civil liberties groups and interfaith coalitions, counter that these mandates violate the Establishment Clause of the First Amendment. They warn that displaying a specific Protestant translation of the text is exclusionary, coerces students of different faiths or no faith, and marginalises families who do not share those religious views. You can learn more about these legal and ethical debates on the ACLU or read further analysis from Americans United for Separation of Church and State.
Britain has state churches (Anglicanism in England, Presbyterianism in Scotland), and we aren’t generally obsessed with religion, whereas the US has no state church and is over 40% fundamentalist/creationist lunacy.
Any thoughts on that?
Also, the USA churches are not viable as a state church because they are not a single church, but hundreds of loose sub-protestant “denominations.”
Google: ” In the earliest centuries of the church, Christianity was highly diverse, and the foundational events of Jesusâ life were intensely debated. While the narrative of a literal crucifixion and bodily resurrection became the mainstream orthodoxy, several influential early groups fundamentally rejected it.These varying perspectives generally fell into two major camps:1. Docetism and Gnosticism (The “Illusion” View)Many early Christiansâparticularly within Gnostic communitiesâheld a belief called Docetism (derived from the Greek word dokein, meaning “to seem” or “to appear”).The Belief: They believed that because the material world was inherently corrupt or evil, a purely divine being could not possibly have a physical, flesh-and-blood body.The View on the Cross: Therefore, they believed Jesus only seemed to be human. His suffering and death on the cross were entirely spiritual or an illusion.Historical Evidence: We know this was an active, first-century debate because the canonical First Epistle of John strongly condemns anyone who denies that Jesus Christ “has come in the flesh”. Later, the early church bishop Ignatius of Antioch explicitly railed against Gnostics who claimed Jesus didn’t actually suffer.2. The Substitution TheoriesSome Gnostic sects went a step further, teaching that someone else died in Jesus’ place.The Followers of Basilides: Early theologians like Basilides taught that Christ was an invulnerable, purely spiritual being. At the crucifixion, Jesus swapped places with Simon of Cyrene (the man forced to carry the cross), and it was Simon who was actually crucified while Jesus watched from the sidelines, invisible and laughing.* The Gnostic Apocalypse of Peter: This second-century textâfound in the Nag Hammadi libraryâexplicitly outlines that the divine, spiritual Christ could not be harmed, and that the physical suffering was happening to a mortal substitute while the real Jesus looked on.3. Wisdom and Gnostic GospelsCertain early texts, most notably the Gospel of Thomas (found among the Nag Hammadi texts), do not mention the crucifixion or resurrection at all. Instead of portraying Jesus as a sacrificial savior whose primary purpose is to die for sins, these writings present Jesus as a dispenser of secret wisdom and spiritual enlightenment.”
*(My emphasis)
Britain has state churches (Anglicanism in England, Presbyterianism in Scotland), and we arenât generally obsessed with religion, whereas the US has no state church and is over 40% fundamentalist/creationist lunacy.
Any thoughts on that?
Also, the USA churches are not viable as a state church because they are not a single church, but hundreds of loose sub-protestant âdenominations.â
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The USA ruling class has always used religion to carry its agenda and to win the support of the working class.
Whatever denomination they are, they are all the same, and all of them propagate hate and support wars and crimes.
The Episcopal Church in Latin America is considered to be a progressive church for its social stances, and it supported the liberation theology
They can write hundreds of books and publish thousands of videos, but the reality is that Jesus never existed; his apostles never existed either; his crucifixion and resurrection never happened;
The writers of the Gospel never existed; and everything is based on a combination of Greek and Egyptian mythology, and the whole bible is a book of fantasies, legends and human inventions.
The Exodus never took place; Joshua did not exist, and Moses neither, and god never chose any particular people and never promised any land.
The new book titled The Bible Unearthed has proven everything; they did not find any evidence of the existence of any of the personalities mentioned in the whole bible
People have been fooled for more than 3 thousand years
https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/The-Bible-Unearthed/Israel-Finkelstein/9780684869131
Hollywood studios have made a lot of money using the bible to make religious movies, and the Vatican has made a lot of money too, propagating myths, including the cult of the Virgin Mary, saints, miracles and concordatos
The Basilica of Our Lady of Guadalupe in Mexico City is one of the most visited Catholic sites globally, drawing up to 20 million pilgrims yearly.
While it generates immense wealth, including millions in daily coin offerings funnelled through underground collection systems, this money remains entirely in Mexico. The Vatican does not receive these funds, relying instead on its own distinct financial operations.
The funds generated at the sanctuary are managed locally by the Archdiocese of Mexico to support the massive daily maintenance of the shrine’s multiple temples, local clergy, social outreach, and administrative staff.
Like virtually all Catholic dioceses worldwide, the Vatican operates as an independent entity with its own budget, completely separate from the local collections of international shrines.
While the Holy See does not receive financial dividends from the site, the Vatican News actively promotes the global spiritual significance of Guadalupe, acknowledging its crucial role in the history of the Americas
A myth invented by the Spanish invaders to pacify the Aztecs. There are more than 30 Virgin Marys in Latin America, and all of them produce large profits
But the US churches do not constitute a single church (unless they all unite and form one), so which one would be the state church and the state clergy?
” They can write hundreds of books and publish thousands of videos, but the reality is that Jesus never existed; his apostles never existed either; his crucifixion and resurrection never happened;
The writers of the Gospel never existed; and everything is based on a combination of Greek and Egyptian mythology, and the whole bible is a book of fantasies, legends and human inventions.”
Agree.
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