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July 22, 2026 at 2:02 am #264930
Ciudadano Del Mundo
ParticipantHe was a student of Gamaliel, who was a Pharisee, and they believed in the resurrection; some Christians believed in reincarnation, like most religious people of that time.
Gamaliel (often spelled Gramael) was a famous first-century Jewish Pharisee, a leading teacher of the law, and a respected member of the Sanhedrin (the ancient Jewish council and court).
Role in the Sanhedrin: Defended the Apostles: In the Bible book of Acts (chapter 5), when the Jewish leaders wanted to kill the early followers of Jesus, Gamaliel spoke up in the Sanhedrin.Wisdom and Caution: He advised the council to leave the apostles alone, saying that if their movement was just a human plan, it would fail on its own. However, if it was from God, fighting it meant fighting God. His advice saved the apostles from execution.
Historical and Religious Impact: Teacher of Paul: According to the New Testament, Gamaliel was the teacher who trained the Apostle Paul (Saul of Tarsus) in strict Jewish law.High Status: In Jewish tradition, he is called Rabban Gamaliel the Elder and is remembered as one of the greatest teachers of the Mishna
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July 22, 2026 at 8:10 am #264932Thomas_More
ParticipantI’ve been reading about the Mishnah in Robert Price: Deconstructing Jesus, and am awaiting his book on Paul: The Colossal Apostle.
There were no Pharisees, and no Synagogues, in Galilee in the supposed time of Jesus. There was also war between Jerusalem and Samaria, Galilee’s ally.
The Jews had no reason to want Christians killed. As Christianity developed, it shifted the blame for the crucifixion from the Romans to the Jews.
For some Christians Jesus escaped the cross and Simon of Cyrene was crucified in his place. Also, Barabbas means “Son of the Father” and some said he was Jesus and thus escaped.
July 22, 2026 at 3:40 pm #264936Thomas_More
ParticipantMany early Christian churches denied that Jesus ever actually lived. (See Richard Carrier, The Obsolete Paradigm of a Historical Jesus, 2025).
I didn’t know of Ned Ludd, the equally fictional figurehead of the Luddite movement. This is a parallel.
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July 23, 2026 at 5:15 pm #264944Thomas_More
ParticipantThe pre-Gospel epistles do not mention historicity and are solely concerned with a “spiritual” Christ, but by the time of Ignatius, that writer is frenziedly concerned with establishing an historical Jesus; desperately so!
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