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  • in reply to: Anti-Zionism is not anti-semitic #251618
    Bijou Drains
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    I’m not saying that ideology causes war. I’m saying that it is feasible that if the SWP’s desired outcome, of the destruction of Israel as a nation state, was about to take place, there’s a pretty high chance that, if the ultra religious elements within the government had the power to do it, they would set off their nuclear bombs.

    in reply to: Anti-Zionism is not anti-semitic #251609
    Bijou Drains
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    Ideology and religion develop and adapt to meet the needs of the ruling class, that doesn’t preclude the possibility that some of those governing the capitalist state might believe some of the horseshit they’ve created.

    No doubt some of those who create fetish objects to be venerated will also believe in the power of their fetish objects, despite the fact that they created them

    in reply to: Anti-Zionism is not anti-semitic #251584
    Bijou Drains
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    Wonder if the great brains in the SWP have thought through the consequences of “smashing Israel” when Israel has a government heavily populated with religious fanatics that also has access to nuclear weapons?

    in reply to: Labour Party facing bankruptcy #251580
    Bijou Drains
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    “The development of the British A-bomb as one of the “towering achievements” of the post-war Labour government.”

    He could have also cited these examples of the Atlee Government doing its best to support the British Capitalist Class and waving the butcher’s apron.

    Greek Civil War (1946–1948)
    1945 Sheikh Bashir Rebellion (1945)
    Indonesian National Revolution (1945–1949)
    Operation Masterdom (1945–1946)
    Corfu Channel incident (1946–1948)
    Malayan Emergency (1948–1960)
    Korean War (1950–1953)

    That would clearly remind the ruling class that they have nothing to fear from the Labour Party

    in reply to: A dumbed-down populace. #251574
    Bijou Drains
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    Note to self, don’t go on the forum when you’re (sic) also on the beer!

    in reply to: A dumbed-down populace. #251567
    Bijou Drains
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    I must be some kind of genius then, it makes perfect sense to me:

    The people who are voting will vote to elect an assembly, and that assembly will watch the Mayor who will then ask a government for money, they (the government) will ask for this money from the people who own the country for that money.

    It’s not that hard, Lizzie, perhaps your not as cunning a linguist as you claim!

    You might try this one as a homework exercise:

    “Now the fascinating witches who put the scintillating stitches in the britches
    Of the boys who put the powder on the noses of the faces of the ladies
    Of the harem of the court of King Caractacus
    Were just passing by”

    Altogether now!

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    in reply to: A dumbed-down populace. #251553
    Bijou Drains
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    TM – “In Carlisle my mother and i asked several people about Hadrian’s Wall. They had never heard of it, including a policeman.”

    It’s probably because there is so much to do and enjoy in Carlise that the locals didn’t have time to stop and find out about Hadrian’s Wall.

    Carlise is up their with Slough, Aldershot and Newport Pagnell, in terms of the highlights of this sceptered isle.

    It is rumoured that some people have even turned down the chance of spending a wet Wednesday in Hartlepool, just to have the option of a day in Carlise

    in reply to: A dumbed-down populace. #251549
    Bijou Drains
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    Going back to the 60’s my aunt organised a delivery from a well known department store in London for a member of the family back in the North East, when the woman behind the counter heard that the delivery address ended in “County Durham” she replied “Oh no Dearie, we don’t deliver to Ireland!”

    Somethings never change.

    The one that always winds me up is when Southern commentator refers to Scotland as being “On the other side of Hadrian’s Wall”

    in reply to: A dumbed-down populace. #251543
    Bijou Drains
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    It is a mistake to think that the goggle box watchers of the world or the answers from (some) quiz contestants are reflective of the general nature of people’s level of understanding of the world. On an anecdotal level I am often taken aback by the level of knowledge and understanding that people I encounter in the real world (not TV/social media influences).

    I sometimes attend a local pub quiz, for example, and the large numbers of people, the wealth of knowledge they possess (shown by the scores attained) is just one example. I travel around the country for work (although not as much as I used to) and often engage in conversation with taxi drivers, hotel workers, fellow guests in hotels, as well as the people I meet through work and although I do encounter the odd balm pot, the vast majority of people I meet are well informed about what is going on in the world, current affairs, etc. etc.

    As to those quiz shows TM refers to, I have a little experience of quiz shows. I was talking to a production assistant on a quiz programme some years ago and he told me that quite naturally the way the quiz programmes are set up are based on the audience they intend to attract and the responses of the audience to the contestants. The people who they recruit for the quiz are either people they think the audience will associate with or feel some form of sympathy with, which they will then invest in wanting them to win, or people that the audience will dislike and therefore wish the contestant to lose.

    They also select the contestants on their level of ability; they regularly select contestants that have a lower level of quiz ability than those who watch the show. This allows the audience member to develop a feeling of superiority over these contestants. (That bit seems to have worked for you, anyway). They also occasionally select contestants who have a much higher ability than the general audience, which also varies the show and keeps the audience on their toes (modesty forbids). I was also told that the questions chosen for each quiz reflects the audience that are attracted to that quiz. They try to make the questions at a level where the audience would probably be at about the midpoint of the level that the contestants would achieve.

    It might be that you’re just watching the wrong quiz programmes (perhaps Only Connect, Mastermind and University Challenge might be more your bag, or even Round Britain Quiz and Brain of Britain on the radio). Similarly there are lots of challenging TV shows, some of BBC 4, Sky Arts, etc as examples.
    P.S, TM, I haven’t forgotten about posting my take on Cde Fleischman’s article and the ongoing Freud debate, just I have been up to my neck in work, etc. I will try and get that done sometime this week.

    in reply to: How to remove a topic. #251464
    Bijou Drains
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    Please don’t go Chelmsford. I for one genuinely enjoy your sarcastic, curmudgeonly comments

    in reply to: Anti-Zionism is not anti-semitic #251451
    Bijou Drains
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    I might be misremembering but didn’t the SWP also support the military dictators in Argentina in their war against British mining and oil interests in the Falklands?

    in reply to: Freud and Marxism. #251412
    Bijou Drains
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    No masturbation, no sport, definitely no football, only 2 partners for your entire life, no rude jokes, no taking the piss, you can have a drink, but only with meals, no getting wazzed and off to bed by 9.30pm

    Socialism’s going to be a right giggle

    in reply to: Freud and Marxism. #251391
    Bijou Drains
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    ” but don’t many animals seek out a quiet place to die when life becomes unsupportable?”

    Most animals seek out a hiding place when they are sick, this is because being sick makes you vulnerable. The fact that some of the ones that are sick actually die, it is not surprising that some of the sick animals don’t recover.

    Interestingly I think this is an example of the Freudian habit of putting 2 and 2 together and making a mystically based sex related 43. It’s a bit like seeing that little girls sometimes get pissed off because they can’t widdle up the wall like their brother and developing penis envy, with the possible consequence of:

    Resentment towards the mother who failed to provide the daughter with a penis
    Depreciation of the mother who appears to be castrated
    Giving up on phallic activity (clitoral masturbation) and adopting passivity style vaginal intercourse. (quite how the 3 year old works that out is a little bit worrying!!!)
    A symbolic equivalence between penis and child

    Or maybe she just wishes she was able to piddle up the wall

    Another more tragic situation was that Freud was for once right on the money in his badly named “seduction theory” which explained female “hysteria” as having a root in trauma and that sexual abuse was very much part of that. Of course stating that child sexual abuse was rife in upper class Paris and Vienna was not a popular thing to say and he abandoned that theory and came up with the far more acceptable Oedipus complex.

    Better to get rich being wrong than staying poor being right, eh Siggy?

    in reply to: Freud and Marxism. #251360
    Bijou Drains
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    I’ll let you know, TM, my posterior is a thing of great beauty!
    😱

    in reply to: Freud and Marxism. #251355
    Bijou Drains
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    It may be that gravity is not a force as put forward by Newton, however the existance of gravity is observable and prooveable, just jump out of the window if you want proof. It is also possible to observe that the effects of gravity are consistent across the universe (well with one or two exceptions, which are more about the shortcomings of the theory rather than gravity itself).

    All of the “drives” which Freud puts forward as theory are not observable and cannot be consistently observed. You cannot observe these drives anymore than you can observe orgon, chi, heavenly grace or animal magnetism.

    Any drive or instinct can only have evolved if it aids reproduction or survival (or at the very least has not hindered those things). If any Freudian believer of Thanatos can successfully explain how a drive or instinct involving killing yourself or destroying yourself can aid survival or reproduction, I’ll happily show my arse in the Party’s front window.

    A theory is a description of reality that offers or attempts an explanation of reality’s workings. The problem is not only are what you describe as metaphores wrong teh whole theory is unsustainable.

    Freud made some very interesting observations, however his observations were not unique or novel. The role of the unconscious mind had been described centuries before Freud’s birth and Rousseau and Darwin amongst others had developed models of staged child development.

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