A dumbed-down populace.

May 2024 Forums General discussion A dumbed-down populace.

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  • #251504
    Thomas_More
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    Let us admit that basic geography and history have become specialist subjects, whilst literacy beyond the basic is at an all-time low.

    So we must hope of many workers of today that they will come to socialist awareness without these things. Not impossible, as i know many comrades say. However, forget about any knowledge of the materialist conception of history (or even of basic chronology, let alone social history), and forget about any knowledge of places too. (Global distribution of goods in socialism will have to depend on computer programs made in advance, maybe).

    Call me a snob, but it is still a fact that people travel around the world and back without knowing where the places are they’ve been to. And they also rely on the state for its paltry education and few now read books.

    So only anger and need can lead them to make world revolution. Knowledge of why they are where they are (historical materialism, which term would flummox most) and how they got here won’t do.

    #251506
    DJP
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    Call me a snob

    Ok, if you insist.

    #251509
    Thomas_More
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    And yet it’s true. Just watch any number of quiz shows. Or broach the subject of history, or geography.
    People are surprised when i argue with their conviction that early humans hunted 🦕 dinosaurs.

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    #251512
    Thomas_More
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    Can you name a book?

    #251513
    Thomas_More
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    Point to a region.

    #251514
    DJP
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    TM I think you need to take a course in sampling methodology!

    #251515
    Thomas_More
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    Europe.

    #251516
    Thomas_More
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    China?

    #251517
    Thomas_More
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    History

    #251518
    Thomas_More
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    Books

    #251519
    DJP
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    So your approach to social research is to watch funny videos on YouTube? And then you think it’s the other people that are dumb?

    #251520
    Thomas_More
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    No. But you won’t believe my own experience of other people.

    And on quiz shows people win money if they answer correctly, so if they knew when the American Civil War ended, they wouldn’t say 1951, would they?

    #251522
    Thomas_More
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    The point is it doesn’t matter as long as we really dumb down ourselves when explaining our case. Start talking about history or materialism, and there’s no hope.
    Defunct capitalism is making more and more people, in the digitalised world, stupid.
    That’s not to say they don’t have skills needed for their wage-labour. That’s it: history and the Humanities are held in disdain because business is all that’s valued, and sciences and skills that channel workers into a specific avenue, their wage-slavery.

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    #251525
    Lizzie45
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    Couldn’t have put it better, TM

    #251526
    Thomas_More
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    I don’t see any blossoming of culture any more until capitalism is overthrown, but that’s also a Catch 22 situation, as human intellect stagnates along with the system.
    Only socialism, by freeing us from the wages system, can introduce leisure for the mass of people (see Lafargue and Morris) and raise intellect, bringing back what was once called “Renaissance Man” – a condition that cannot flourish under present conditions (see Wilde).
    The problem remains – the climbing free in the first place and attaining the willpower for revolution whilst under present, capitalist, stifling conditions.

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