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June 2024 Forums General discussion General election

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  • #252448
    ALB
    Keymaster

    I don’t suppose anybody here bothered to watch the debate between Tweedledum and Tweedledee but I suppose we should also have a thread on the mock election so that we can comment on the passing show.

    #252454
    Bijou Drains
    Participant

    Funnily enough I was going to post about Sunak and his approach to being reelected. If he’s got even a slither of a chance to pull it off, he needs to start to appeal to younger voters and also to hold on to his higher rating in the older persons groups.

    However he looks likely to have pissed off the youth with his National Service idea and also pissed off a large section of the over 85s by buggering off early from the D Day celebrations.

    I was starting to wonder if he was deliberately screwing things up to get back at the Tory backbenchers who have making his life a misery. Let’s face it he can fly off to California with his squillions and have a grand old time.

    Also was wondering if he’d thought through his National Service idea completely.

    Northern Ireland has about 20,000 young people with Nationalist leanings, can’t think they’d be enamoured with the thought of marching about in a British Army uniform and I don’t think the security forces would be that keen to have 20,000 Nationalists trained to handle guns and munitions!

    #252455
    james19
    Participant

    Slightly different note..

    Posted on X Twitter. Cringeworthy stuff, but I did enjoy the ending, it backfired quite hilarious and very funny. Not lost on MPs who also laughed. Hopefully lots of MPs lose their seats. Apparently it’s Scottish burn?

    https://x.com/BladeoftheS/status/1799533746678341966?t=us1t8nO4jq2nLcHAbY26hQ&s=19

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    #252532
    ALB
    Keymaster

    We have prepared a leaflet for distribution outside the two constituencies we are contesting suggesting that those who want socialism cast a write-in vote for it by writing WORLD SOCIALISM across their ballot paper.

    Here is a link to it if you want to post on your social media accounts.

    https://tinyurl.com/2uwdyxr5

    Physical copies are being printed and should be available next week. If you would like some to hand out where you live email Head Office on: spgb [at] world socialism.org

    #252562
    ALB
    Keymaster

    The Green Party is promising all sorts of goodies to be financed by taxing the rich more. George Monbiot asks

    “How did we end up with a situation in which none of this is Labour policy?”

    At one time it would have been and was. After WW1 the Labour Party set out to gradually change capitalism into a better society for workers through social reforms and nationalisations. But instead of Labour Party changing capitalism it was capitalism that changed Labour Party. The experience of being in government under capitalism, when they had to apply its economic law that priority must be given to profits and conditions for profit-making, made them more realistic and eventually to accept this. Today the only change they want is to replace the Tories in office while leaving everything else basically the same.

    The same fate awaits the Greens if ever they came into office. And has in Germany. So Monbiot’s advice to vote Green in certain constituencies is urging people to go down a dead end.

    Incidentally, the Greens are promising to stay in the NATO war alliance — a good start on the road that leads to nowhere.

    Anyway, here’s what he writes:

    https://theguardian.com/commentisfree/article/2024/jun/12/green-party-manifesto-labour-wealth-tax-public-services-keir-starmer

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