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  • in reply to: twitter account @worldsocialism.com #116275
    Bijou Drains
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    Hi DJPThe problem may also be the way in which members express themselves as well as the interpretation. Without rehashing old arguments I did point out to Matt that the wording of his message about the Labour Party retweet did read exactly like a dictact rather than an opinion. To be exact "this is a breach of the hostility clause and should be removed" as opposed to "this could be a breach of the hostility clause and you might consider removing it". Another difficulty is that with some of the postings on here, it is difficult at times to distinguish between what is a personal opinion of an Internet a committee member, and what is the view of the Internet committee. 

    in reply to: twitter account @worldsocialism.com #116273
    Bijou Drains
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    DJP wrote:
    northern light wrote:
    However, words like dictats —- monolithic and centralised command are indicative of stalinism. That's punching below the belt.

    If you read the above as an insult directed at you, I apologise . That was not my intention. 

     Hi DJPThis is not an attempt at sarcasm, but a genuine enquirer. What did you mean by your comments?

    in reply to: twitter account @worldsocialism.com #116262
    Bijou Drains
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    This is the difficulty, YMS, Vin did exactly as you suggest and despite informing the IC of his actions, the IC appear to have reported that an unknown operator was using the account that Vin set up. It appears from what I have seen that the IC did not inform the EC that they were made aware prior to the report to the EC that Cde Marratty was operating the account on behalf of the NERB.. I cannot say that this is definitely the case, however I am concerned that a committee of the SPGB may not have fully reported a situation to the EC and I also think it is important not to lose sight of the fact that this whole affair appears to have had the effect of shutting down a Twitter site that was putting out information about the socialist case and reaching non Socialists, which is what we are supposed to be about.Personally I do not care about past animosity, (I really couldn't give a damn about who called who what and when, etc. and I think there is a case for self reflection and a degree of maturity) I do care about putting forward, in whatever way we can, the Socialist case, and this is what Comrade Marratty appears to have been doing very cheaply and effectively. I cannot for the life of me understand why any member of the SPGB would object to this. I am however concerned that there appears a tendency to over control individual members' actions to the point where it is counterproductive YFSTim

    in reply to: The Tories and the disabled #118202
    Bijou Drains
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    Strange guy, Reich, early on in his career did some pretty good stuff and he was a big influence on Fritz Perls, but he did some pretty strange stuff after that. To see it as authoritarian personalities is probably a little misleading, personality is really a spectrum thing with lots of dimensions and lots of shadings. I wasn't implying that all non-secure attachment styles are authoritarian in outlook or desire, merely that the research appears to indicate an increased preference for those types of political structures/right wing views amongst those attachment styles.I, personally, think that the cod psychology of certain of the leftist groups is quite laughable and simplistic. the kind of Trotsyist "If we make outragous demands that captialism cannot meet, the workers will realise the sham nature of the system and join the revolution", as if the whole mass of the working class is of one psyche and will think identically and all come to exactly the same conclusion.

    in reply to: Democratic Operations of Branches #118293
    Bijou Drains
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    If you have any further problems with swearing, I can refer you to the offices of my solicitors messers Hadaway and Shite

    in reply to: Democratic Operations of Branches #118290
    Bijou Drains
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    Comrade Marratty, Had I known you had used words like Hell, I would never have supported you. You disgust me, you foul mouthed young reprobate!

    in reply to: Democratic Operations of Branches #118288
    Bijou Drains
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    moderator1 wrote:
    Tim Kilgallon wrote:
    moderator1 wrote:
    Tim Kilgallon wrote:
    As our Branch Secretary has now been indefinitely suspended from using Spintcom (with moderators citing issues from 2013, for god's sake). Can members of the IC or Spintcom/Forum moderators please explain to me how, with our Branch Secretary unable to use these crucial tools, our branch is going to function in the same way as other party branches? Is it the case that functions available to other branches will not now be available to our branch?

    The suspension of Cde Vince Marraty from SPINTcom and SPopen will not affect the activities of the NERB Branch.  Other members of the Branch can still post on those lists and this forum is still open to all members of NERB.  In addition, on this forum the Branch has an allocated section to conduct its business.Not all Branches take advantage of the functions available on the lists or indeed on this forum.  Yet they still function by using other means of communication.  Its highly unlikely that Branch activity will be affected by the suspension of one of its members from the internal party lists.

    Ah, really glad you agree with my viewpoint that SPINTcom and SPopen are largely an irrelevence, as much use as a one legged man in an arse kicking competition, as my old man used to say.

    I did not imply no do I agree with the viewpoint that SPINTcom and SPopen are "largely an irrelevence".  In fact far from it for from my perspective the more medium available to individual party members the more choice they have on using the one most appropriate to their communication needs and skills.

    I suppose, to some extent I can see your point, perhaps those who have limited face to face communication skills and choices, may make use of internet based communication. Personally I prefer talking to human beings and being able to read nuance and irony from their communication styles, however if a person has a problem with interpersonal communication (and I'm not impying that anyone using these tools necessarily has these difficulties) I suppose I can see their uses. I can see how it might save them from being lonely, isolated, friendless, I guess. I find it difficult to comment on these issues, I have a social life.

    in reply to: Democratic Operations of Branches #118283
    Bijou Drains
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    moderator1 wrote:
    Tim Kilgallon wrote:
    As our Branch Secretary has now been indefinitely suspended from using Spintcom (with moderators citing issues from 2013, for god's sake). Can members of the IC or Spintcom/Forum moderators please explain to me how, with our Branch Secretary unable to use these crucial tools, our branch is going to function in the same way as other party branches? Is it the case that functions available to other branches will not now be available to our branch?

    The suspension of Cde Vince Marraty from SPINTcom and SPopen will not affect the activities of the NERB Branch.  Other members of the Branch can still post on those lists and this forum is still open to all members of NERB.  In addition, on this forum the Branch has an allocated section to conduct its business.Not all Branches take advantage of the functions available on the lists or indeed on this forum.  Yet they still function by using other means of communication.  Its highly unlikely that Branch activity will be affected by the suspension of one of its members from the internal party lists.

    Ah, really glad you agree with my viewpoint that SPINTcom and SPopen are largely an irrelevence, as much use as a one legged man in an arse kicking competition, as my old man used to say.

    in reply to: Mailing list Charter #118275
    Bijou Drains
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    I think any reasonable member or sympathiser can see the pedantic approach of moderators with regards to this matter. In my opinion they should hang there heads in shame at the way they have treated Cde Marratty. I for one will not be letting the matter rest.

    in reply to: The Tories and the disabled #118198
    Bijou Drains
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    ALB wrote:
    .It still leaves open the question of why some have authoritarian personalities. The way they were brought up?

    Probably the most influential theory on the development of personality, and in my view the most well tested and applicable theory, is Attachment Theory (John Bowlby, et al) . It very much sits on the nurture side of the nature v nurture debate. (it is a big topic to cover on the forum and I wouldn't want to be accused of going off thread, given my geographical location, this appears to be a possibility) In terms of personality development, Mary Ainsworth developed the Ainsworth Strange Situation test which has been used to identify four main attachment types and personalties, of these I would argue that the three insecure attachments would tend to favour authoritarian relationships (either as the authoritarian or as the receiver of authoritarianism) and that this would be likely to impact on their political outlooks. There has been some study of this.This link should workhttps://apps.cla.umn.edu/directory/items/publication/304528.pdfGood news is that securely attached personalities generally constitute around 60–65% of the population. That shouldn't be read as saying that all Socialists have secure attachment patterns (clearly this is not the case!!!), and that those with insecure attachment patterns are likely to be fascists and unable to form socialist consciousness.

    Bijou Drains
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    I was listening to RTE on Friday and there was talk of the government intervening to ban the proposed strike by workers on the Luas tram system because it will interfere with the celebrations of the Easter Rising! Connolly would be proud, the government he helped to set up, with the Citizen's Army, intervening to ban a strike because it interferes with celebrations of his actions!!!

    in reply to: Marxist Animalism #106502
    Bijou Drains
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    Yes I would still eat it, is the short answer.I hear they do fantastic pork chops at The restaurant at the End of the Universe

    in reply to: CPGB-PCC Notes for Action, March 4 2016 #118241
    Bijou Drains
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    jondwhite wrote:
    CPGB-PCC Notes for Action, March 4 2016

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    An apocryphal story has it that the Socialist Party of Great Britain, upon discovering that its membership had risen considerably in the last year, decided that there could not possibly be so many true socialists in the country and expelled a bunch of them. ..

    typical Leninist, can't even manage a very good attempt at humour. Perhaps Jack Conrad should watch this and get an idea of how irony really workshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AGh8gsjlAuQ

    in reply to: twitter account @worldsocialism.com #116225
    Bijou Drains
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    Vin wrote:
    Alan,apology accepted, we are still palsI have been informed that the IC doesn't have a problem with branch twitter accounts, so that bit has been cleared up. As for NERB I intend to suggest that at least two other members hold the password. So If I go doolally and tell a conservative party member he is a fuckin prick another member can immediately step in and apologise    

    Like fuck we will

    in reply to: twitter account @worldsocialism.com #116222
    Bijou Drains
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    Young Master Smeet wrote:
    Tim Kilgallon wrote:
    A person may be unsuitable for a particular kind of job, however the management of a twitter account is a fairly straightforward job that, in my opinion, is one that any technically competent member should be able to carry out.

    There I strongly disagree, the social media orperators should at least have passed the speaker's test.  The operation of a social media account has possibilities for imediate and irrepasrable reputational harm.  

    Tim Kilgallon wrote:
    Just a very quick and very straight forward yes or no question YMS. Do you think that officers and committees of the party should be accountable for their actions?

    Yes.  And I think they are.

    Then taking into account all you have said, why is their no account (hence accountability) from the IC as to why Cde Marratty (who has passed his speaker and candidate test) was turned down from taking over the official twitter account. I'm not saying I agree with or disagree with the decision, just saying I have no information about the reasoning for that decision and as such cannot hold the IC accountable for the correctness or otherwise of that decision. Do you see my point?

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