The coming world war.
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April 16, 2024 at 8:32 pm #251627
Thomas_More
ParticipantApril 16, 2024 at 8:38 pm #251630ALB
KeymasterI think you missed out the question mark.
April 16, 2024 at 9:13 pm #251632Thomas_More
Participant” I think you missed out the question mark.”
I really don’t see how the rival capitalist blocs can pull back at this point without ‘loss of face.’
April 16, 2024 at 9:33 pm #251635ALB
KeymasterYou keep saying that but never take any notice of replies trying to assure you that the end of the world is not nigh.
April 16, 2024 at 9:42 pm #251639Thomas_More
ParticipantWhat makes you so sure?
April 16, 2024 at 9:53 pm #251642Ozymandias
ParticipantYou think the Capitalist Class are going to destroy their own playground & the Golden Goose that goes along with it?
April 16, 2024 at 10:21 pm #251644Thomas_More
ParticipantAre you saying they control their own system?
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April 16, 2024 at 10:27 pm #251646ALB
KeymasterNeither the capitalist class nor any government can control how the capitalist economy operates. But the one thing that governments do control is the use of armed force. So, yes, it can be said that governments can control whether or not to go to war.
April 16, 2024 at 10:36 pm #251647Thomas_More
ParticipantBut using the present Iran/Israel crisis as an example: no government wants to ‘lose face’, either to rival states nor to their own electorates. So both sides are compelled to retaliate and thus escalate.
April 16, 2024 at 11:18 pm #251648Young Master Smeet
ModeratorFace is a matter of propaganda: Iran and it’s proponents are lauding the missile attack, saying it was a strategic stroke of genius, Israel says they shot down all the missiles and proved Iran powerless: sometimes you have to take the L, we saw this through the cold war: they will fight, they will devastate countries and kills thousands upon thousands, but will avoid total war if they can: the memory of Britain losing its Empire through fighting Germany lingers.
April 16, 2024 at 11:26 pm #251649Thomas_More
Participant“…if they can …”
But can they, now?
April 17, 2024 at 12:56 am #251650Lizzie45
BlockedYou will henceforth be known as Theophilus Moore, after the originator of that well-known astrological almanac.
April 19, 2024 at 1:45 pm #251689ALB
Keymaster”But using the present Iran/Israel crisis as an example: no government wants to ‘lose face’, either to rival states nor to their own electorates. So both sides are compelled to retaliate and thus escalate.”
If I dare raise my head above the parapet for a moment, it looks as if Th. Moore’s example is showing the opposite to his conclusion. Two states in conflict can both save face and so avoid war if they don’t want one (as neither they or anyone else want).
I could be wrong of course. We’ll see.
April 19, 2024 at 2:47 pm #251690Lizzie45
BlockedI could be wrong of course.
Probably not on this occasion.
Israel’s limited strike in Isfahan could rid Iran of the need to retaliate.
June 1, 2024 at 6:00 pm #252348Thomas_More
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