Thomas_More
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I don’t condemn someone who cannot find non-leather uppers or whom they don’t work for. It isn’t that. We live in a society that exploits nonhuman and human animals massively and we all have to do what we can. I need medicines, and they are produced and sold by animal-torturing labs, because that is the basis of the pharmaceutical business. It isn’t my fault I need those medicines; it’s the system’s which tortures animals without needing to, because it covers their backs financially.
I don’t eat meat because I can live without it.
I don’t wear leather because I don’t need to.
I have to eat some fish for protein because beans upset my stomach.It isn’t what some people cannot help having to buy and use.
It’s the RAPACIOUS, deliberate, purchaser and user of animal abuse products and mocker of those with sensibilities which include nonhuman as well as human life, whom I despise; the belittler of what are important matters to some of us, because the belittler needs to feel justified in his callousness. And those of us, and there are many better and more consistent than I, with some awareness of nonhuman sentience, pain, joy, all the emotions humans can also experience if able, are not PATHETIC objects of ridicule for not buying into the big ignorant lie of human superiority over all who live, breathe and feel, feel pain, joy, fear, grief etc., just as we humans do (some of us).” David Beckham stopped wearing kangaroo leather (K-leather) football boots in 2006. The decision came after he was targeted in a prominent animal rights campaign by Viva! and viewed graphic footage of the animal slaughter and cull process associated with the material.Following the campaign, Beckham collaborated with Adidas to switch the uppers of his signature Predator cleats to synthetic materials. This high-profile switch made waves across the sporting world, anticipating a broader industry shift as major football boot manufacturers eventually phased out K-leather.”
I don’t buy leather products, no.
When I was trying to be a vegan, my cousin would deliberately give me leather goods for Xmas, including a wallet with REAL LEATHER written across it.
Similarly, when the in-laws knew my father was struggling to stop smoking cigars, they bought him a bumper box of cigars.
Thousands have cried out because they are appalled at the deliberate slaughtering of kangaroos and the terror unleashed on these animals for the sake of a game, but obviously not a socialist.
Any wonder our numbers are low, when we show such callousness to the fate of other living beings just because they’re not human so are obviously just things, resources? People’s attitudes are changing, and that is where there might be hope for a socialist world one day – but no thanks to socialists, who don’t give a f***.
I have an idea what the Aborigines would say to you.
All justifying slaughter for football games, does it?
People have been making books for centuries and trees can be replanted. There is more deforestation in electronic gadgets as natural habitats are laid waste and gorillas etc., exterminated in clearance for landfill for old computers and gadgets.
So, Little Marra, a joey who has seen his mother shot and is traumatised and hiding, is no different from a discarded branch off a tree.
Good to know.“Early Christians”, as I think I said already, is not any one thing. Saying they were communistic – well, probably so – but they were never one church or group. And they all, long before Constantine and long before “orthodoxy”/Catholicism, hated each other and saw each other as heretics. So, “early Christianity” for a start should be called early Christianities.
AI Overview +12 “The commercial harvesting of kangaroos for “K-leather” used in high-end football boots has sparked major global outcry over extreme cruelty. Because female kangaroos are often shot at night, their dependent joeys become collateral damage—they are either bludgeoned or decapitated by shooters, or left orphaned to die from starvation, cold, and predation.The Reality of the Kangaroo Leather TradeThe commercial kangaroo harvest in Australia is the largest land-based wildlife slaughter in the world, heavily driven by the demand for lightweight, durable leather in premium soccer cleats.Collateral Damage: According to animal protection agencies, hundreds of thousands of infant joeys are orphaned or killed alongside their mothers annually.Official Guidelines: Under Australia’s National Code of Practice, shooters are instructed to kill pouch joeys via a single heavy blow to the head (concussive strike) or decapitation. Older “at-foot” joeys that flee into the dark often die from predation, exposure, or starvation without their mother.Welfare Concerns: Animal rights groups frequently cite poor enforcement and the inherent cruelty of unmonitored mass night-shootings as major concerns.Industry Shifts and the Push for SyntheticsFacing massive public pressure and campaigning by animal rights organizations, the tide is turning against the use of kangaroo leather in sports.Major sportswear brands including Nike, Puma, New Balance, Adidas, and ASICS have announced plans to phase out or completely stop using kangaroo leather in their products.Brands like Sokito have moved entirely to vegan and recycled alternatives, proving that high-performance athletic gear does not require animal skins.Several US states have introduced legislation to ban the sale of kangaroo parts, and similar import bans have been debated in the European Union.”
It also brings them with national flags, and I could be wrong, but I don’t think they socialise much.
I mentioned above when the Falklands War and World Cup were on, how waiters I was working with were talking in the same breath about beating Spain and then beating the “Argies.”
Granted, I am glad for football gradually replacing (too gradual for me) bullfighting in Spain and France, although certain football boots are made with kangaroo skin (the joeys left to die after their mothers are shot and skinned for the beautiful game.
1936 Berlin Olympics. 1939 war. One could argue the sports got them ready for the war.
I do hope there will NOT be fox hunting in your vision of socialism? Putting it on a par with the games you list is somewhat disturbing.
No other sport been associated with such levels of violence and criminality?
I suggest you read the social history of boxing. There are many classic works on this. Especially Gerald Horne’s The Bittersweet Science: Racism, Racketeering, and the Political Economy of Boxing.
The classic film, based on Budd Schulberg’s novel, The Harder They Fall, is worth seeing. It’s a Bogart masterpiece. There is also Champion, with Kirk Douglas and Arthur Kennedy, and The Set-Up, with Robert Ryan.
The “afterlife” was invented to protect God from charges of incompetence and uselessness when things failed in one’s real life, which was happening constantly in 2nd century BCE Judaea.
A similar ploy, earlier, was the replacement of magicians by priests (see Frazer) who, as intercessors, cannot be blamed when prayers aren’t answered.
