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ParticipantThen how come the Christchurch Tory incumbent kept his seat?
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ParticipantAs expected, the Tories won a landslide in my area.
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Participant“St Francis of Assisi never made a speech on the doorstep of number ten.”
If he had tried, he wouldn’t have gotten the respect he got from the pope.
He’d have been dragged off as a homeless bum.Thomas_More
ParticipantThen what’s with the claim that 42% of Americans are Young Earth creationists?
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ParticipantWell, i don’t know what is the case with Indonesia. Muslim fundamentalism? South Korea is perplexing. It’s mostly Catholic, i thought, and Rome cunningly got out of the creationism/evolution conflict in the 1950s thanks to its Jesuitical mastery of difficult situations. So Rome “accepts” evolution.
The biggest surprise for me is India. Hinduism should have no problem with evolution and nonhuman/human kinship, and i believe most Hindus don’t. But Modi’s govt seems to. Bizarre.I have a theory as to why the US is obsessed with creationist Christianity, and it goes back to the 1600s.
My theory is that when English puritans went to America, it removed them from the political environment in England which had created their movement. In America they faced a totally different environment, akin in their imagination to Genesis. In England puritanism developed politically and became deism and finally rationalism. In America it could not develop, but fossilised as Christian fundamentalism.It goes hand in hand with the wild frontier vs God’s “chosen” and hence also the obsession with guns, hunting, Old Testament justice and suspicion of “city folk.”
Long since migrating to the towns in order to “correct” sinners and convert them, it is primarily an anglophone movement, and the Asian and African countries which also host it are the mostly anglophone ones.
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ParticipantNone of this is why evolution is being banned from schools. The reason is that creationists would want it banned whatever name it was given.
The word “evolutionist” is just as open to misinterpretation, and Darwin didn’t like it.
I will continue, with Dawkins and Gould, to call myself a Darwinist, as we call ourselves Marxist – another word that absolutely festers with misinterpretation, and by most people too.Thomas_More
ParticipantDawkins:
Genetics and DNA science CONFIRM and BUILD UPON Darwin and Mendel.
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ParticipantSubject for The Socialist Standard: Is Darwin still valid?
The state boards that have discontinued the teaching of evolution haven’t done so because of post-Darwin discoveries. They’ve done it because they find human kinship with other animals repugnant. (Indian official: “No one ever saw a monkey become a human!”)
The scientists of every country nonetheless work with the realities of natural selection, in spite of schoolboard pundits.-
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ParticipantSo, because he came before later discoveries, which do not refute his theory of descent through modification in the least, Darwin is to be rejected?
So we might as well not mind the evangelists, who, after all, do not have a problem with DNA?
There’s nothing about DNA in Marx either, and Kepler never mentioned quantum mechanics, so he is now void too.
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ParticipantSo, Lizzie, only parties that have sway should be supported, even if the reasons they have sway and are popular are wrong?
If something is the right answer, i will continue to support it even if nobody else does.
Or should we say 2+2=5 were the majority to say that’s correct?
Following the majority down popular dead ends will make you popular, but you’ll end up at a dead end just the same.
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ParticipantEven so, everyone in my neighbourhood will vote Tory, including the poorest. I had to do jobclub-type duty and would overhear the others on the dole talking, moaning about the misery of their lives. But they always voted Tory, as they put it: “That’s a given.”
The same phrase was used about having voted Brexit: “Of course! It’s a given.”I still think the Tories will win.
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Participant” Lizzy’s “non-derisory” results can never be permanent attainments. The history of capitalist elections reveals them to be volatile, and capable of spiriting away as capitalism turns and twists.”
True. But there is no collective historical memory amongst the workers. As a young man said to me, “I shall vote Labour because i don’t remember a Labour govt.”
So when they tire of Punch, they vote for Judy, and then back to Punch, ad infinitum.Thomas_More
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“It must be a tough life being the only cultured genius in the village.”
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ParticipantI agree, DJP.
And i too have always thought and hoped that if socialism happens, it will be a majority which is ignorant of us. And then, at last, we can get some well-earned rest.
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ParticipantThey think socialism is nationalisation. They’d dismiss us as utopians.
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