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ParticipantWhat is your definition of ‘rampaging capitalism’? Building infrastructure? Planning to travel to Mars?
No. Rampant pollution, deforestation, driving other animals to extinction, poisoning the seas and the land, killing for fun (“sport”), driving tribal communities out of existence, fracking, more and more weaponry for nation-states, you name it.
Obesity at one end of the scale and starvation at the other. But hey, we can all become obese! Won’t that be fun? Just reproduce the parasitism of the capitalists, but for everyone!
If you don’t view capitalism as rampant and destructive, what are you doing here?
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ParticipantWe don’t want socialism in order to be free to live like rampaging capitalists, but to save our world from rampaging capitalism.
Sounds to me like you envy the capitalist class and see socialism as a ticket for being free to behave like them without any laws, money, etc. standing in your way.
That is not why we are socialists, and has never been so.
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ParticipantAnd so with socialism.
Coming out of capitalism will be a damaged people, but the fact that they have opted for socialism and understood it will imply a sense of responsibility, which at first will mean some sacrifice.
A society of abundance can be built, but that goes hand in hand with responsibility and abstaining from harm.
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Participant‘An irresponsible society would never establish socialism. The irresponsible thrive already’.
So Socialism is impossible.
If you buy into the selfish human nature myth.
Yes, socialism will never be made by people who don’t care about the planet and the welfare of other beings. It will be made by more people who do care becoming aware that capitalism is the problem.
The “don’t give a damn” crowd are those who mock the idea of socialism; who laugh at “do-gooders.” A socialist says better a do-gooder than a do-badder.
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ParticipantThose who commit harm now would be stopped, i e. the expropriation of the capitalist class in the first place. Socialism’s first priority, after getting food, clothing and shelter to those without them, would be to reverse what can be reversed of the damage capitalism has done; not a free-for-all licence for those wanting to continue the damage.
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ParticipantDon’t be stupid.
The community would shun them as selfish bastards and restrain them if they do harm.
An irresponsible society would never establish socialism. The irresponsible thrive already.
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ParticipantIt strikes me that a conscious socialist population would be prepared to sacrifice production that is harmful to the natural environment, toxic to it, cruel and harmful to other species, and not necessary for humans to live. People who “don’t give a damn” about these things where their pleasures are concerned would, I hope, be publicly shamed. Socialism would, I hope, be a responsible and compassionate society first and foremost, and not a free-for-all for irresponsible hedonists and destructive people.
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ParticipantDidn’t realise the above videos were AI.
However, having watched them, I agree with the monologues.Thomas_More
ParticipantAnyone who believes in nothing and thinks we become nothing is no materialist.
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ParticipantWhere does the “soul” go?
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Participanthttps://tass.com/politics/2146743
West planning preëmptive strikes – Russia.
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ParticipantAnything that reverses the march to war with Russia will be a relief.
But, if “leaders” are pushed by the capitalist system, if the AfD were elected, wouldn’t they have to continue to blow the war trumpet, since German capitalism is demanding it?
And if German capitalism is not what’s driving Merz & Co. to war, then what’s the logic? What are we seeing?
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ParticipantThe Ukraine war is clearly not coming to a close, in spite of the views of many here that it is more or less over. NATO and the EU are not prepared to yield.
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ParticipantNew front will open as Armenia joins EU and joins with NATO against Russia.
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Participant” Ukraine’s full accession to the European Union will trigger Article 42(7) TEU, the bloc’s binding mutual defense clause, which requires all EU member states to provide “aid and assistance by all the means in their power” if a member becomes the victim of armed aggression.”
So, it’ll be war with Russia!
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