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AI Overview +2 “Virtually all historians and scholars of antiquity agree that a historical Jesus of Nazareth lived in first-century Roman Judea. While the supernatural claims in the Bible are matters of faith, the scholarly consensus overwhelmingly concludes that an actual, flesh-and-blood person named Jesus was baptized by John the Baptist and crucified under Pontius Pilate.The belief that Jesus is a complete myth is a fringe theory in academic circles. Historians establish his existence using multiple independent sources that date to within a few decades of his life, which is more contemporary evidence than we have for many other accepted ancient figures.These independent sources include:The Apostle Paul: Paul’s letters, written within 20 to 30 years of Jesus’s death, mention knowing Jesus’s brother, James.Roman Historians: Writers like Tacitus recorded the execution of “Christus” by Pontius Pilate in the early second century.Jewish Historians: First-century writer Flavius Josephus twice references Jesus in his historical works.To dive deeper into how historians use these and other texts to separate fact from myth, you can explore the Historical Jesus overview on Wikipedia or watch Bart Ehrman’s lecture on Did Jesus Even Exist?.”
And yet mainstream academia, and even atheists, insist Jesus was a real person, with denyers called “a fringe.”
Robin Lane Fox’s PAGANS AND CHRISTIANS is an excellent social history of how Christianity rose, changed and expanded up until Constantine.
Richard Carrier.
I worked as a waiter during a former world cup, and one said, “After we beat Spain (football), we’ll beat the Argies (war).” The two things were one to him.
Trump visits Mount Rushmore on 250th July 4th to declare communism a ‘mortal threat to American liberty’ | Fortune https://share.google/naNkuTpQySdNdVWXp
Well, yes. Communism (socialism) is a mortal threat to the capitalists’ liberty to exploit, kill, pollute and destroy. So he is right.
Letter sent to various academics.
EVIDENCE FOR AN HISTORICAL JESUS?
The two main non-Christian sources that Christians use to say Jesus existed are Josephus (proven to be an interpolation) and Tacitus (who is simply repeating what the Christians in Rome were shouting about, not confirming any fact in it). So those can both be dismissed.
Annoyingly, online and other sources continue to quote these two “testimonies” in proof of Jesus’ historical existence, even non-Christian and atheist academics. Why?
With Joshua being a popular name at the time (as now), and with innumerable rebels against the Jewish establishment tending over many decades to congregate, armed, at the Mount of Olives, it is highly likely that the figure of Jesus would be a composite, invented three decades after his supposed execution, of many such, violent and armed, persons, as Karl Kautsky explains. The peace-teaching Jesus, however, has left nothing, apart from Christians telling stories about such a person, after thirty years of total silence about any such man, and without a word either from any Roman or Jew.
So what is the evidence for Jesus?
