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ParticipantGrim and this comment in the comment section adds a further dimension – the aftercare needed for those who survive the virus :“Finally, a piece which speaks to something near the truth. Some people cannot or refuse to understand that this virus is different and will not follow a predictive course. Those same people are burying their heads in the sand and wishing for a return to their lives pre-Covid19. Newsflash that reality isn’t coming back, ever. For the avoidance of doubt read what drs etc have learned about the after effects of those lucky enough to recover from a dose – lung, heart, liver and kidney damage which require ongoing medical care. So even if the predicted deaths of 600,000 isn’t sobering enough or ‘worth it’ has some would suggest, the prospect of hundreds of thousands needing for example ongoing dialysis care should be enough to knock the herd immunity hypothesis on the head. So forget going back to ‘normal’, think about how we go forward.“robbo203
ParticipantAccording to this article the UK is predicted to have the worst death toll form the virus in Europe
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ParticipantPredictable I guess. The limits of Sander’s vision is a humanised form of capitalism. Now he is discovering that, to keep capitalism ticking over in any form, certain unpalatable measures have to be taken that favour the interests of the capitalists as against those of the workers
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ParticipantCan someone give me a history lesson here?
1918/19 – Spanish Flu
50 – 100 Million Deaths2020 – Covid 19
66 Thousand Deaths so far (whilst infections look as if they are in plateau in at least in some territories)Ozy I understand that the number of deaths for the Spanish flu were compounded by famine in places like India which lowers the body’s immunological resistance. Also, given the reality of trench warfare in WW! you can imagine how this provide ideal conditions for the contagion to spread
This link might be of interest
https://medium.com/@robertroybritt/covid-19-pandemic-has-only-just-begun-e23a4b5694bb
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ParticipantAnybody know more about this?
“Dr. Vladimir Zelenko has now treated 699 coronavirus patients with 100% success using Hydroxychloroquine Sulfate, Zinc and Z-Pak ”
Patients saw the symptom of shortness of breath resolved within four to six hours after treatment. Dr. Zelenko said the whole treatment costs only $20 over a period of 5 days with 100% success.
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ParticipantBritain wants compensation from China. Fat chance of that happening
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ParticipantAnother left-liberal approach to “stimulating the economy” based on the flawed theory of underconsumptionism https://eand.co/america-is-committing-economic-suicide-c7c1f7122169
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ParticipantMore on bank bailouts and funny money
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ParticipantThis is not the end of capitalism, it might be the end of one of its forms, but it might adopt a different now and it will continue operating.
True. But I think the pandemic could bring about a certain contraction or hollowing out of capitalist relations of production. I sincerely doubt that we will ever get back to “business as normal” after this
Talking of which here is something that landed in my in tray this morning
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ParticipantThe main economic impact is going to be in developing countries. If people in the developed capitalist countries think they’ve knocked for six economically speaking imagine what it must like working in the informal or black economy in some vast megalopolis somewhere. I am struggling to envisage what is going to happen in the next few years even if capitalism does not implode (which is unlikely)
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ParticipantI can see disaster looming ahead for India and at so many different levels. It could well overtake the US as the new epicentre of the virus in a few weeks time
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https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=2707708222675521
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ParticipantExcellent job Matt. Its much better now
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