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ParticipantTomandBob
There is some truth in what you say about the need to associate socialism with abundance, but I don’t think this is an either/or situation.
Many workers are increasingly concerned about the state of the environment and are disillusioned with the consumerist rat race. There have been studies that point to the fact that beyond a certain point, more money does not make you happier. As someone quipped, the most miserable people in the world are the very rich and the very poor.
We should be thinking of a more balanced approach to life. One of the great “selling points” of socialism, if I can put it like that, is that most of the jobs that we do today in a capitalist society will no longer need to be done in a post-capitalist society (all those jobs to do with handling money, for example). In effect, we can more than double the amount of labour and resources for socially useful production in a socialist society without imposing any greater strain on the environment – simply by diverting all this wasted labour and resources away from these socially useless activities that capitalism necessitates.
This is one of the strongest arguments for socialism. It should be hammered home at every opportunity
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Participant56,000 people own three times more wealth than half of humanity
56,000 people own three times more wealth than half of humanity
June 11, 2026 at 7:23 am in reply to: The Economics of the Lower Phase of Communism–MHI Zoom Meeting, June 14 #264168robbo203
ParticipantThere may be a hint of what the MHI thinks on the subject of the lower phase in this piece
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ParticipantYes, that is a very good summary of a vision of a post-capitalist world…
Personally, though, I don’t mind the word “enterprise” being used rather than the more technical-sounding expression, work units or production units. I always remember Ron Cook´s description of socialism as being a “genuine free enterprise” society (if I remember correctly). I thought it was a very innovative example of a sort of “cultural appropriation” (if I could put it like that), which might make supporters of the capitalist free market think twice.
At any rate, it conveys the idea of such qualities as initiative, imagination and human agency that lies at the heart of the concept of “freely associated labour”
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ParticipantIt looks like the government of Milei has increased the popularity of the Trotskyists in Argentina; there are predictions that they might win the next election
That’s very interesting. Do you have the source for this prediction that I could cite?
I am constantly coming across FB sites that seem to have a large fan base for Milei, although the people concerned tend to be MAGA types based in the US. British right-wingers have a more ambivalent attitude towards Milei because of the Falklands/Malvinas issue
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ParticipantIf the far right are against the EU’s obsession with war with Russia, are they not then preferable, as Orban was in Hungary?
Interesting article on the views of VOX and the Spanish Far Right, which does not seem to be opposed to supporting Ukraine in the Ukraine-Russia war
The Spanish Radical Right under the shadow of the invasion of Ukraine
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ParticipantWith Spain back in the news, falling foul of the Orange Blob over NATO, it is worth noting that things are not looking good for the ruling PSOE government. Probably, there will be a new PP government in alliance with the ultra-right VOX party in 2027
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ParticipantIt looks like this idea that Trump’s stop-go approach to war/peace with Iran, being linked to insider trading on the stock market, is gaining currency…
I read somewhere that his sprog, Barron, has been in on the act as well (maybe tipped off by his daddy), but that might just be conspiracy theory
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/apr/18/iran-war-bets-ethics-concerns
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ParticipantNot too sure about this, but there is some suggestion that Trump´s stop-go approach to the so-called peace process may be linked to the phenomenon of insider trading in that glorified casino called the stock exchange:
BREAKING: Just 20 minutes before Trump’s announcement that the Strait of Hormuz was open, massive trades hit the market.
Investors sold a combined 7,990 lots of Brent crude futures, a $760 million bet that oil would go down.
These orders were much larger than anything else at the time.
The traders made huge gains.
Unusual.
– Post on X by unusual_whales@unusual_whalesFor context, there is also this – the phenomenon of “dark pools” on the stock market geared to profiteering:
“In 2009, Alexandra Zendrian, writing for Forbes, said, “Dark pools are venues where trading is done off of an exchange to obtain price improvement and not move the price if a large block of stocks is being traded,” — theoretically, a dark pool is just any sort of exchange in financial markets between parties that happens invisibly to the public or ‘retail investor’ eye.
Arguably, the most interesting fact about dark pools right now is its immensely uneven growth vector statistic — dark pools make up, according to more recent reports detailed below, an estimated 65%+ (As of December 2018) of the stock markets daily volume. However, an estimated 7% of all investors even know what they are.”https://medium.com/banz-capital/the-basics-of-a-dark-pool-in-investing-35dd37119ea5
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ParticipantI never heard of the Mayflower gang being called communists!
Oh, you will be surprised by the number of times this is done by “free market” libertarians, imagining in that fertile imagination of theirs that this constitutes decisive proof that “communism does not work”. LOL
Just a quick Google comes up with a long list. Just this one example will suffice:
https://www.heritage.org/markets-and-finance/commentary/pilgrims-beat-communism-free-market
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ParticipantInteresting thread this. Should be turned into an article for the SS, I think
Relevant to this is the myth of the Puritan Separatists, called the Pilgrims, setting up a communist colony in North America, and failing woefully – thereby demonstrating in the uncritical minds of free marketeers that communism does not work and that we need a free market instead.
This article demolishes that argument comprehensively, though it is surprising how frequently one still comes across the argument on the internet
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Participant“How China Forgot Karl Marx
The Chinese Economy Runs on Labor Exploitation”https://www.foreignaffairs.com/china/how-china-forgot-karl-marx
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ParticipantWez
Yes, I think that’s a fair point you make about Hitler (the same could be said of Trump in the current situation).
I guess the important thing is not to deny that particular individuals can make a particular impact on the course of history, but rather to focus on the social context that allows them to do so. It is in this sense that “great men” are a product of the times they live in.
It is when you separate the individual from the social context that you succumb to the basic error of the Great Man theory, or what Plekhanov called an “optical illusion”. This is the belief that these individuals were almost, as it were, parachuted into society and that the accomplishments associated with them are primarily (or even entirely) a manifestation or product of their own personal qualities.
I’ve always had a liking for Plekhanov´s great essay
https://www.marxists.org/archive/plekhanov/1898/xx/individual.html
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ParticipantI know we should have no truck with the Great Man theory of history, but this piece offers some fascinating insights into the Man-child (spoilt brat) that is Mr D Trump
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ParticipantWithout the slightest degree of self awareness this is what that feckless Orange Blob said: ““I’m not worried about it,” the US president said. “You know what’s a war crime? Having a nuclear weapon.”. Indeed, Mr President….now tell us who in the world possesses such weapons, eh???
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