Ozymandias
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From our friends who gifted us the Atom Bomb. Just listened to this pish. Wish I'd been there. He sounds half pished. Arsepiece.
Yes I read this a few days ago. Thing is it doesn't explain the fact that I've read references to the middle class on here and on the twitter feed. The answer is the middle class do exist socially but not structurally? So they do exist as a class at the same time as being a subsumed into 99%. It's like the paradox of falling into a super massive black hole. You are simultaneously spaghettified yet survive.
Would the owning class blow themselves up? The thing is it's the danger from ISIS et al as well as the possibility of accidents or some zany General who might be working in a silo who could trigger it off. It terrifies me but each crazy year that goes by seems to me closer to this Armageddon. It's as if each year is a magnification of it's predecessor. Each of the big holy books finishes with a holocaust. One of the failed Republican candidates (Carson) is a 7th Day Adventist and this group seek to hasten the end of days. This is the situation we are in. Along with the fact that our masters have the workers still exactly where they want them with mass blind acceptance of Capitalism as "Just Life" . I don't have any respect for my class or faith in them. It's my own self loathing I guess! With tiny green sprouts of WSM type thinking emerging across the net, do we have enough time in this race against time? That cunt Mao once said "Nuclear War is Inevitable". I hope the old bastard was wrong.
With this unexpected result what would be the consensus among members here? Depressed that workers are still swallowing the same old xenophobic shit, heartened that "white working class" proles have stuck the vicky up to the "political establishment" (in a very round about way) or just a feeling of being nonplussed?
Oh they love defending their masters esp the royals etc. They deserve all they get. Stupid bastards.
Just listening to those two lefties completely depressed me. One of them jokingly refered to himself as a "Trot" and he even said "if you want Capitalism to work…" which encapsulates the SPGB ctritique of the "Left" because in reality humane capitalism is all they want. They just don't have the intelligence to see beyond the wages system. Hearing the main speaker rhapsodise about the glorious "victories" in the "struggle" makes me want to vomit. The WSM argument just goes completely over their heads yet they talk to us as if the SPGB is just another fragment of the broad church of leftism! After almost 120 years of effort on the part of the SPGB we are still hearing the same shit from the "Left". Their hero worship of Corbyn sickness me. Plus the same old patronising bollocks of theirs that whilst the SPGB apparently just sits on it's arse "talking" the real class warriors are out there on the barricades in the eternal war "doing something in the meantime". Fuck them all.I was also disappointed with the response of Bill Martin who just seemed to almost commiserate with them. It's a far cry from years ago when reformists like this would have been utterly demolished in a debate. Now all there is are a handful of people gassing at the back of a pub. Maybe Bill Martin just thought what's the point in even trying to engage these blowhards in debate. The guy obviously has a brilliant mind but his language would be an instant turn off to your average worker. What is so dishearteningis if these are the views of the most "enlightened" members of the working class (insofar as they have an inkling of class consciousness being trades union organisers) then what are average workers thinking? Almost fuck all by the looks of it. With their smartphones they are becoming ever more dumbed down. With a vast libaray of knowledge at their fingertips they know even less. We don't have a snowballs chance in hell of seeing Socilaism. This is the element which strikes me.
Clearly the "forum" is contributing to the ongoing death of the SPGB. In fact if anything the forum is hastening the demise…
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/belief/2014/oct/10/islamic-state-dabiq-important-not-end-of-the-worldThis prophecy stuff is scary because millions of Mohammedans believe in this shit. I wonder what Ben Carson would think of the Muslim end of days scenario. The cunt would probably revel in it seeing as he's a member of a church that wants to hasten global nuclear apocalypse.http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/nov/06/seventh-day-adventists-put-faith-over-science-and-reason-ben-carson Add this into the mix of what's going on in the Middle East right now and it looks like we're heading for WWIII. Thank fuck we've got the Royal Variety Performance on ITV tonight as well as "The Dad's Army Story" to look forward to on BBC 2 with all the other Christmas goodies in store!I've noticed a major ratcheting up of jingoism and lots of shit about war and glory on the telly in the past 5 years to the extent that something as previously benign as The Antiques Roadshow is now a subtly nationalistic bandwagon. I hardly have the telly on now. Honestly what hope do we have after over 110 years of miserable failure in trying to convince your average worker of the need for Socialism? Never mind all the murderers in the army and the fascists in the police WHO ARE THE LYNCHPIN OF THE WHOLE FUCKIN THING! And all the armies and police forces of the world are going to join the class war on our side? LIKE FUCK THEY WILL! Oh I hope I'm wrong wrong wrong but I just can't see it ever happening guys. It's a beautiful dream that's all Socialism is ever going to be. We can't even imagine what our masters have got in store for us. And it's not only the cretins in the police or the army. They have swathes of workers engaged in all sorts of hideous dirty machinations that we can't even imagine. All the horrible dirty tricks on a global scale throughout history only underlines what our miserable species is all about. Greedy, murdering, violent, thieving, lying, hating, manipulating, using bastards. Why even give it a label by calling it "Capitalism"? ITS US!!! WE ARE THE FUCKING PROBLEM IN THE FIRST PLACE! It's us. "Humanity"…
