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“The Russians are in the centre of Bakhmut as we speak”
I’ve seen Elvis impersonators in Benidorm that have more credibility than you
TW is clearly not very good at understanding complex concepts.
It’s obvious he struggles to comprehend really difficult ideas such as looking at the calendar and knowing what day it is.
What a fecking spanner!
I don’t see how that is possible given that Prigozhin is their leader. Prigozhin, whose trade mark is honesty (9 years in prison for robbery, “fraud and involving teenagers in crime”
His Co- Leader and one of the founders of the Wagner Group is Alexey Milchakov,
Milchakov openly states he is a Nazi, talks enthusiastically abou Lev Gumilev’s ethnogenetic theories.
I linked you to a direct interview (in Russian) on 6th Feb, post number 240042, confirming this.
On the up side, looking back through posts to find this reference I found this gem from Mystic Meg (aka Tinky Winky)
TW stated on 15 Feb (post number 240410)
“Bhakmut is mere days if not hours away from falling.”Looks like his racing tips are about as dodgy as Scott Ritter
BD “So still no comment on Wagner?”
TW “Prigozhin is likely exaggerating. His troops are very well armed and supplied. More likely he personally has received a slap on the snout for too much showboating.”
I was thinking more about the Wagner Group’s leader professing his Neo Nazi views (as shown by him repeating them on the youtube video I linked to you).
To be fair to TW –
Here is an equivalent load of bollocks from the other side, written by the fabulously named David Parsley from the i newspaper owned by the “The Daily Mail and Trust” and operated “independently” from the Mail.This propaganda piece badly disguised as journalism claims a 1 in 20 death to casualty ratio for the Ukrainians in comparison to a 1 in 3 death to casualty rate for the Russians.
https://inews.co.uk/news/russian-troops-fear-uk-trained-ukrainians-front-line-2163923
The situation regarding Sarwar might be slightly more complex due to the football/sectarian intricacies of West Coast Scotland.
Celtic supporters have made a big claim of being immigrant friendly and it is claimed more ethnic minority Scots support Celtic than support Rangers.
Also Celtic fans have recently begun display flags supporting Palestine with Rangers fans using Israeli flags at Ibrox.
Old Firm supporters I have met really struggle with the concept of anyone not being on one side or the other of the sectarian divide.
When asked by Old Firm fans which side I really prefer I have taken to saying I like both teams and like them both to do well, which really confuses them.
TW – “Fighting Nazis is glorious work”
So you’ll be thrilled by the number of deaths amongst the Wagner Group troops?
“I’m not going to re-watch a bunch if his videos to find the figure for you lot just to say what a load of crap it is”
So basically your “source” is a video that you claim exists, which you claim you think you have heard at some point.
However, you claim you can’t remember exactly where it is and you can’t be bothered to find it.
So basically the equivalent of “I think I heard some bloke say it in a pub”
TW – “You’ve never asked for my source on casualties. It’s Andrei Martyanov”
So your figures are based on the work of a Russian living in the US. So, just like you, his figures (if they concur with you, and I can’t see anywhere on line actually stating a figure of deaths of Ukrainian troops on any line article, although I am happy to be directed to them) are effectively based on conjecture, rather than direct evidence.
Having read your comments over some time I have noticed that the more you find it a struggle to support your arguments effectively, the more you resort to insult. I am inferring (note the correct use of the word) from your recent post that you must be really struggling to justify your patently ridiculous exaggeration of the Ukrainian death toll.
Your frankly gruesome and blood thirsty glorification of the deaths of fellow workers on both sides of this grubby capitalist dispute does you no favours
According to TW – The Ukrainian Forces are on their last legs, and that they have had 200,000 deaths and very few survivable casualties, but on the other hand they’ve a troop strength of over 1,000,000 troops. (So presumably that makes 800,000 troops available)
On the one hand the Ukrainians overinflated their troop numbers and are unreliable but on the other their troop numbers are greater than the ones that the Ukrainian’s have announced.
On the one hand sources such as the Russian Ministry of Defence and the Moon of Alabama are the source of reliable data, yet his estimates of Ukrainian deaths are much greater than the ones provided by his never revealed “sources” which are reliable and correct.
It looks like TW doesn’t know whether he’s batting or whether he’s fielding
The brilliant “Poor Old Ireland” released by Lindisfarne and writtenby the late great Alan Hull in 1972, is one of the few songs produced through the troubles that gives a perspective that Socialists could concur (The Town That I Loved so Well, is probably another one)
Lyric are:
Poor old Ireland, poor old universe,
Wonder who comes off the worse.
Poor old people mistreating misbelieving,
I think you’ve been cast by a curse.
But I don’t want you to die, I can see all the lies
There’s nothing there that’s new.
But there’s still no need to make blind children bleed,
Even if what you say is true.And meanwhile in the aisles of the churches with style,
They’re singing their songs to the Lord.
And the preacher’s carping that for failure on earth,
Heaven will be your reward.Poor old Ireland tortured by past and
Tarnished by future’s curse
Poor old Ireland, poor old planet,
Poor old universe.Oh Ireland your people mean more than the idols
You seek to set upon earth
And the day that you see that’s the day, that all of your
Sadness and sickness will die.For the enemy you seek to destroy is not the
One who’s causing the pain
He’s disguised himself well with his book and his bell but
Evil is still his name.Poor old Ireland tortured by past and
Tarnished by future’s curse
Poor old Ireland, poor old universe
Wonder who comes off the worse.BD -“That said, it is interesting that suddenly (when it suits you) you are starting to rely on data provided by the Ukrainian side”
TW “So predictable. I was anticipating this very retort. We all know no men, even teenage boys, are allowed to leave Ukraine and that there are countless videos of Ukrainian civilians being dragged off the streets and press-ganged to the front. The Kiev Nazis also have their own version of the volksturm. The figures of men pressed in to military service is one number we can trust.”
Is that the sounds of straws being clutched at???
TW – “The defence minister added: “We have approximately 700,000 in the armed forces and when you add the national guard, police, border guard, we are around a million-strong.”Jul 11, 2022”
Even if you go with the figure of 700,000 (the national guard, the police, border guards are not currently enlisted), your figure of 200,000 deaths is wildly improbable.”
As I have said the tooth the tail ratio of front line troops to logistical tail has a minimum of 1:3 (probably higher) that gives a front line strength of 175,000 front line troops. Add to that a death to serious injury ratio of even 1:2.5 (which is highly unlikely) your 200,000 figure (which you actually said was proabably much higher) would entail another 500,000 seriously wounded. That leaves 700,000 dead or wounded. So given that figure, who the hell are the Russians still Fighting?
That said, it is interesting that suddenly (when it suits you) you are starting to rely on data provided by the Ukrainian side, having trashed their intel and Western Statistics and media throughout this debate. You frequently state that the Ukrainians have been exaggerating their firepower, yet all of a sudden they are accurate?
Has it occurred to you that the Ukrainian Defence Minister might have a vested interest in inflating the figures he announces when he is interviewed in the Times, when the Ukrainian government are busy trying to persuade Western powers to continue to supply them with arms?
Other research through other sources show a different perspective:
Statista.com, whose reputation is reasonable, not great but reasonable, state the following figures:
https://www.statista.com/statistics/1296573/russia-ukraine-military-comparison/
