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  • in reply to: What is Socialism? #116808
    Bijou Drains
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    That's right L Bird You are the cleverest, the brightest the most wonderful of us all, we are but shadows of your towering intellect. You can dismiss anything you don't like with your magic force field of "that's bourgeois" or "your a Leninist" or even your ultimate weapon "I'm clever and you're thick".After all you have achieved the dizzy heights of grade 2 CSE in Philosophy. It must be such a frustrating place to be surrounded on all sides by imbeciles, when you are such a towering genius.

    in reply to: What is Socialism? #116805
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    "In order for a person to be diagnosed with narcissistic personality disorder (NPD) they must meet five or more of the following symptoms:Has a grandiose sense of self-importance (e.g., exaggerates achievements and talents, expects to be recognized as superior without commensurate achievements)Is preoccupied with fantasies of unlimited success, power, brilliance, beauty, or ideal loveBelieves that he or she is “special” and unique and can only be understood by, or should associate with, other special or high-status people (or institutions)Requires excessive admirationHas a very strong sense of entitlement, e.g., unreasonable expectations of especially favorable treatment or automatic compliance with his or her expectationsIs exploitative of others, e.g., takes advantage of others to achieve his or her own endsLacks empathy, e.g., is unwilling to recognize or identify with the feelings and needs of others Is often envious of others or believes that others are envious of him or herRegularly shows arrogant, haughty behaviors or attitudes"I make no further comment

    in reply to: What is Socialism? #116795
    Bijou Drains
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    I've only been a member of this forum for a relatively short while, however I've come to the conclusion that the hours of time and effort committed socialists spend in discussion with L Bird is futile, wasted and a distraction from the real task of making socialists through socialist propaganda. If the amount of time spent by members on this forum was translated into productive work for socialism. I am sure it would be to better effect.I doubt that L Bird is ever going to join the socialist movement. If his neediness, apparent need to have his ego stroked and practically pathological need to be told how clever he is emerged whilst a member of the party, I fear his presence in the party would do exactly what it does on this forum, distract, annoy etc. In the end I fear he would do as a party member what he does on this forum, drive people away.

    in reply to: What is Socialism? #116785
    Bijou Drains
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    Vin, I think that's an excellent point. Come on then L Bird, we're all waiting.

    in reply to: The gravity of the situation #117296
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    The big question is does the phenomemon of L Bird exist outside of our awareness of him?Or even more important, did L Bird exist before we became consious of him?This leads to the question should the proletariate take a vote on the existance of L Bird?If they vote no, what future for L Bird?

    in reply to: The gravity of the situation #117290
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    Yet again i must pick you upNo matter how often I treat you as an adult, you revert to child-like ignoranceThat wasn't child like ignorance, it was child like behaviour, C minus, must try harder

    in reply to: The gravity of the situation #117289
    Bijou Drains
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    L Bird – That is what 'talk of consciousness' implies – that you will reveal your social consciousness, which you employ when you create your object.Going back to my original question, which you so noticeably avoided, "since materialsits see any talk of consciousness as idealism", I'll ask you to explain again, considering I have just spent the last half our "talking of consciousness" how can it be that I see talking of consciousness as idealism, I don't. Please therefore back up your sweeping statementL Bird – "You think Marx's 'theory and practice' amounts to 'theory' – you said so, earlier." please tell me when, which by the way you can't, because I didn't, yet another example of speciousness

    in reply to: The gravity of the situation #117287
    Bijou Drains
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    Again L Bird, misrepresentation and sophism. There is nothing in my statement to back up your claim that I am arguing for "passive reflection", as illustrated by my statement that theory is produced by"human consciousness and as such reflects all of the various influences, specific and general, human experience brings with it." As such theory, understanding, existence, experience, knowledge, etc. begins from the moment we are conceived. We develop mental representations of the experiences, not merely through cognition, but through feeling, instinct, language, number, etc. creating what Kelly, Beck, Piaget, etc would describe as schema. At any moment in time our "intelligence" can be described in terms of our developing accommodations and perceptions, none of which are final. This does not equate with passive reflection.Humans do create their own reality, by the way, where yours came from is anybody's guess, however this reality cannot be as you state "objective" that is:"based on real facts, and not based on personal beliefs or feelings" or ""dealing with things external to the mind rather than with thoughts or feelings"It must by definition, actually by your definition, by subjective.You then go on to leap to the conclusion, that through this process of the creation of our "objective organic nature", (which as stated must by definition actually be subjective), humans create matter! I do create matter, but afterwards I usually wipe my arse and flush it away, I suggest you might do the same with the shit you produce.

    in reply to: The gravity of the situation #117284
    Bijou Drains
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    "Since materialists see any talk of 'consciousness' as idealism' is a direct quote from L Bird. Very simple task for you L Bird, now back that statement up without any of the usual waffling, deviation, obfuscation, etc. you usually use.I would describe myself as a Materialist and I do not see "any talk of consciousness as idealism". That would be a ridiculous statement, not only that, I have never come across any other member of the SPGB in pushing 35 years of membership of the party state any thing of the kind. The statement is however typical of the specious arguments you put forward.

    in reply to: The gravity of the situation #117279
    Bijou Drains
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    The bit that L Bird seems unable to comprehend is that the understanding (i.e.. the model, in this case the theoretical model of gravity) is produced by human consciousness and as such reflects all of the various influences, specific and general, human experience brings with it. HOWEVER that model or view or theory etc. created as it is by human consciousness is ultimately based on a reality processed by the individual, the group, the social class, etc. We can alter our perception of reality, we can alter our understanding of reality, what we cannot change by thought alone, is the reality itself. What L Bird appears to be suggesting is that matter only exists when observed by a human, whereas the truth is that human perception of reality only exists when humans perceive reality. In addition to this L Bird seems to suggest that the only factor in human perception is social Cass, whereas this is far from the case, for instance does reality change because an individual with schizophrenia observes it. In terms of understanding the basis of human cognitive development he may be better served reading Bowlby and Vygotsky!

    in reply to: What is Socialism? #116765
    Bijou Drains
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    The Spanish Inquisition wrote that ""Capitalism doesn't aim to meet human needs; it meets human desires"Actually that's not true, The only aim of any capitalist concern is to make profit. If in making that profit they meet human need and or desire, so be it, if in making that profit it meets no human need or desire again that is immaterial. The PPI "scandal" is an example of a capitalist enterprise which did not wish to meet a human need or desire, the marketing of thalidomide at pregnant women another, there are so many more. Just because a text book on an MBA states something, it does not make it true.

    in reply to: What is Socialism? #116753
    Bijou Drains
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    I think you are clutching at straws my friend. If that sounds efficient to you, perhaps you need to get out into the real world of work. what I have spoken about doesn't include the returns to Companies House, the hours spent with accountants, the tax returns, the audit trail for every penny spent, etc. etc. Not only that but as a small business time is spent by me and others on insurance, banking, invoicing, factoring, etc etc. All of those people could be freed to use their talents to do something useful. The current system of society wastes human and natural resources on an huge scale. Given those resources to add to the productive capacity we could easily meet the needs and desires of humanity.

    in reply to: What is Socialism? #116750
    Bijou Drains
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    Oh by the way, another example. On Christmas Day this year I was involved with a project to provide a Christmas Day event for people in our community who were lonely and isolated on Christmas Day. We were inundated with people who wanted to volunteer to undertake "unpleasant tasks", including preparing food prior to the day, giving up their day to provide transport, wash dishes, take out the rubbish, etc. etc. etc. We used a local community centre, run by volunteers. We actually had to turn down further volunteers in mid October, because we had nothing left for them to do. This is just one example, there are thousands of others, trades union workers, Allotment Societies, Community Centres, WRVS, St John's, the Red Cross, the response of people in the recent floods, etc. etc. I would suggest that even you , "the Spanish Inquisition" are giving your time free to whatever political movement you really align yourself to, not on the basis of personal gain, but rather in the belief (in my view, mistaken) that what you do is in the common good.Your presence here actually proves our point, you're are not here on the basis of self interest, but in the interest of what you genuinely believe is the common good!!!! I would suggest that a good move forward for you would be to be to really "think outside of the box" set aside your assumptions about society, set aside your limited perspectives. I say this not in the spirit of antagonism, but rather from the point of view of another human who is genuinely interested in how we make ensure the best for ourselves and the rest of humanity. Give it some genuine thought, you may surprise yourself, you say that you are at University, part of the process of University is rethinking the viewpoints you have held and thinking anew. I hope you have the intellectual curiosity and honesty to consider our views and that you might join us in the real Socialist movement in our work that can set free the real creative resources of humanity.Yours for Socialism Tim

    in reply to: What is Socialism? #116747
    Bijou Drains
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    Perhaps I can relate this to my Current Work. I spend a great deal of my work time teaching and training Foster carers. The work of Foster Carers is incredibly complex and complicated, Most of the foster carers I work with, and in this country there are something like 60,000 foster carers, receive less in expenses than they spend on the children. Despite this they are often fantastically well motivated, work incredibly hard and many of them seek out in their own time professional qualifications. This, is in my opinion, a fantastic example of a high number of people who carry out extremely difficult work, motivated entirely by the need to meet the needs of society and others.Sadly, other elements of my work illustrate the ridiculous waste that capitalism produces. Because much of the training I deliver is publicly funded, I would estimate that up to 30% of my work is not teaching foster carers, which I love and enjoy, but rather dealing with the administration of the finance. Not only that but the funding bodies employ literally 1,000s of staff managing the finance and the payments. The funding guidance runs to hundreds of pages and the amount of time staff spend debating various aspects of the funding guidance runs into 1,000 of hours..Given a Socialist society, I would be delighted to spend my life teaching those working with troubled children what ever I can to do their work more effectively, and I'm sure the vast majority of the 60,000 foster cares I work with would be delighted to get on with their chosen work, without the extra task of filling in expenses claims, mileage sheets, tax returns, etc.etc. etc, Supporters of capitalism often cite the efficiency of this capitalism, like much of the horse shit they come up with, this is just another lie.

    in reply to: Members against Materialism #117022
    Bijou Drains
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    Dear ModeratorApologies. On re-reading my post, it may come across that I was trying to be disingenuous with my comments. In retrospect, using words like: low self esteem, friendless and bellend,. could be interpreted in a different way than I intended, if this is the case, please accept my withdrawal of those terms. So just to be clear, it is not my view that L Bird is a friendless, bellend who suffers from problems associated with low self esteem. I hope that clarifies the matter,.

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