May 20, 2021 at 1:18 am #218106
Always useful to have a first-hand account of apartheid Israel to use when online debating.
50% of Palestinian families in Israel live below the poverty line – and although we make up, as of 2009, around 20% of the population, we account for 50% of the prison populationMay 20, 2021 at 2:10 am #218107
Jonathan Cook on Starmer’s position
“I support Zionism without qualification.”May 20, 2021 at 5:49 am #218110
Israel and UK’s military cooperationMay 20, 2021 at 5:50 am #218111
John PilgerMay 20, 2021 at 10:34 am #218139
The billion-dollar UAE-Israel gas deal will go forward
Never let humanitarian scruples get in the way of businessMay 21, 2021 at 12:58 am #218160
Ceasefire … until the next time.
Hopefully, future developments will be centred upon dismantling apartheid nature of Israel.
I have been thinking about Pilger’s argument that the occupation justifies the right of resistance i.e. rockets. But the dilemma is that by defending the armed struggle directly weakens the rights of those who seek to wage non-violent resistance using general strikes and civil disobedience.
I’m swayed by the arguments i seen that Hamas real motive in militarising the struggle is to ensure it retains partisan political control over possible rivals and i don’t mean Abbas and PA but those that possess the latent potential power – the Palestinian-Israelis as explained in the video by their integration within Israel’s economy.May 21, 2021 at 2:03 am #218161
Not many media articles on Jewish-Israeli and Palestinian-Israeli cooperation for peace but this France24 does a summaryMay 21, 2021 at 3:50 pm #218210james19Participant
ajj. Re: Ceasefire?
AOC is trying to block the $735 million arms sale to Israel, saying the US has a ‘responsibility to protect human rights’
The US has been supplying Israel with $billions in weaponry for decades “without ever requiring them to respect basic Palestinian rights.”May 21, 2021 at 4:51 pm #218211AnonymousInactive
She does not know that profits are first to everything, and there is no such thing as human rights, it is only a capitalist fallacy, the USA is a class society like any other around the world, and the USA congress is a pro-capitalist congress like any other
The USA provides billions of dollars to Israel because they need a catapult in the middle east, it is not what the conspiracists say that Israel controls the USA, the mouse can not control the cat. The EU signed a commercial agreement to obtain gas from GazaMay 21, 2021 at 10:38 pm #218222
AP reporter sacked after right-wing accusations of biasMay 22, 2021 at 1:19 am #218223AnonymousInactive
Hours after the ceasefire Israel police continue assaulting the Palestinians. Peace within capitalism is only a dream, and peace under capitalism is the continuation of the politics of warsMay 22, 2021 at 1:35 am #218224
One option from ‘A Land for All movement’.
an Israeli-Palestinian confederation, entailing the following principles:
Two independent states, Israel and Palestine, along the 1967 borders.
A federated structure with shared institutions governing human rights, security, the economy and other issues of mutual interest.
Open borders and freedom of movement for the citizens of both states, who can live anywhere they’d like.
Jerusalem will be an open city, the capital of both states, overseen by a joint municipal government.
And the counter-argument
While the two-state solution does not enjoy the same popularity today that it did 10 years ago, Israelis and Palestinians generally understand the concept even though their vision for precise parameters may vary… the same cannot be said for confederation.
May 22, 2021 at 6:15 pm #218255james19ParticipantMay 22, 2021 at 7:15 pm #218266
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I’m finding it frustrating that many are endorsing armed struggle by Hamas as justified, James. A common refrain online is it is not for us to determine the methods of resistance but the Palestinians themselves and they have chosen Hamas as their representatives.
Has it ended the siege? Has it provoked Israel to send in the army to suffer high casualties? Has it undermined Israel’s security with several hundred rockets fizzling out before even reaching Israeli territory and those that do, 90% shot down by Iron Dome? Has “self-defence” been a financial cost with the USA paying the bills?
It distracted from East Jerusalem and the Palestinian-Israeli protests and propped up Hamas efforts to control events.
It was a power-play by Hamas, not solidarity. They want to portray themselves as the leadership of the Israeli-Palestinians and not just over Gazans.
Hamas could so easily have revived the March of Return to the fences and if the Israeli snipers shot, it would expose once more who is the aggressor. They wanted a media event of Israeli bombing and Israel gave it to them, knowing in a few months it will all be old news and the stand-off status quo returned to with Gazans held as hostages.May 22, 2021 at 9:44 pm #218279Young Master SmeetModerator
Alan, Hear, hear. It’s been tough, a lot of people have sided with the rocket launches. It’s taken some quiet ‘No war but the class war’ phraseology. Hamas’ rockets are rational, they cost $500 compared to $40K for Iron Dome rockets, but likewise Israel struck at the homes and property of richer Palestinians. The pass and fell of mighty powers.
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