Young Master Smeet
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I think the bottom line is that we need to look more at some sort of print on demand approach: I'll try and persuade my branch to bring that to conference next year…
https://airwars.org/news/1000days-two-bombed-cities/
Quote:Unlike the allegations made against Russia at Aleppo, claims of civilians killed by the Coalition around Raqqa seem to attract little to no international media attention. Yet the sources for allegations both against the Russians and the Coalition are often identical -activists on the ground, with access to a network of people in the various locations where civilian casualties are occuring.It depends on the mandate from the branch: also the original introduction of indicative voting left the question of disobedient delegates open, suggesting that voting against instruction could be a clear signal that something important came up in debate. Part of the point was to incentivise sending delegates to conference, and making the debate matter.I think it may be worthwhile empoweing delegates from the proposing branch to withdraw their motions in the light of debate: I think that's the next step.
The key fact from the Dinner leak:https://judithknott.com/2017/05/01/dogs-dinner/
Quote:Very interesting point: May views Brexit as similar to “protocol 36” to Lisbon treaty – a paper exercise with little practical change. This rang Juncker’s alarm bells (“siren”): Brexit is a very different exercise. [Protocol 36 is summarised in an EU press release from 2014: UK opted out but then opted back into many of the detailed elements. Stewart Wood (Baron Wood of Anfield) has also recently blogged about this as a possible reason for May’s delusion.]This is a version of Brexit Exiting As Name Only (BEANO). Also worrying is May's view about European nationals.
Actually, looking at that chart, Le Pen has hardly gained anything: she has a roick solid core of that 18%…
https://www.ft.com/content/b0b6ca64-29b6-11e7-9ec8-168383da43b7Don't know if you'll be able to read that.Le Pen won the youth vote (18-34 she came ahead of Melenchon at 25%, she beat Macron in 35-49 bracket, Fillon ruled the 65+ bracket).Le Pen won the poor vote, she smashed ahead of Melenchon on th <€1500bracket, beat Macron on the €1,500-€2,500 bracket, Macron edged €2,500-€3,500, and aced on those above.Le Pen won the manual labourers and salried employees (exc. managers)brackets.Another image: It looks like the working class is split between Melenchon and Le Pen, the SP has been smashed (but would be interesting to see how it's parliamentary vote holds). We seem to be looking at the failure of reformism. As some Conrynistas point out, the soft left across Europe is in ruins, whatever the faults of Corbyn, he may protect the Labour party as a force, if not as a ruling party.
gnome wrote:Could that be because that particular thread has been locked? So if it's not a glitch then somebody with nothing better do is playing silly buggers..Well, the same applied yesterday as Mcolome1 was the last named contributor on the update screen, but there was no matching postwithin the thread for the time shown. That was before it was locked.
Apologies to mods, but just tried Vin's suggested bump method on a thread I started "In advance of summer school… " and you can see that the last post date was changed:"by Young Master Smeet 27/04/2017 – 8:42am" To the last time I updated it, since this isn't happening with the global resource thread (and in fact mcolome1 remains the listed last poster, and that user didn't initiate the thread) I think we're at home to glitch city…
From what I'v seen, more of Melenchon's voters are likely to go to abstension than to Le Pen, the supporters of Fillon, who has endorsed Macron, are more likely to got o Le Pen. https://alexandreafonso.me/2017/04/19/
At the point of being boring, exactly: the point isn't a rock solid commitment to this or that model of agriculture, but to the principle that conscious human control freed from the logic of capital and it's anti-human incentives will be in charge.Just to put a spanner in the ethical vegan works: vat grown meat would be unacceptable to the ethical vegans if 1 cell from a living animal was ever involved in its production, from a practical point of view, it could be become a land and resource efficient way of producing nutrition.Quorn is unacceptable because it relies on eggs, but a massive upscale of micoprotein production, using marginal land to raise poultry is a viable option and would represent a substantial change in itself.
Actually, I was wrong, #32 above was posted at 10:51, I edited it, and the time now shows 11.01, so I clicked edit and saved…
Other forums I've been on add a note to posts when they've been edited, that doesn't seem to happen on this one.
Perhaps we need the help of Captain Metaphysics:http://existentialcomics.com/comic/182
Lbird has no evidence that the Socialist Party 'openly claims' that only an elite can determine 'truth'Lbird has no evidence that the Socialist Party keeps saying that an elite of 'Specialists' must determine their 'Speciality'?Lbird has produced no evidence that SPGB posters here have openly opposed the democratic control of production of truth, and have insisted that only an elite of 'specialists' have access to 'Truth', by using a 'politically neutral' method, which cannot allow voting by the majorityAnd the above response proves that. All Lbirds claims above are Aunt Sallies.
LBird wrote:But the SPGB 'openly claims' that only an elite can determine 'truth',No, it odesn't Lbird would be unable to provide any evidence that it does.
LBird wrote:that only an elite of 'specialists' can control physics, maths, logic, all science, and, contrary to Marx's arguments for the self-emancipation of the proletariat by democratic political methods, that 'the workers are too ignorant' and must be 'emancipated from the top down' by 'disinterested scientists'.No it doesn't, and Lbird can provide no evidence that it does.
LBird wrote:The SPGB posters here have openly opposed the democratic control of production of truth, and have insisted that only an elite of 'specialists' have access to 'Truth', by using a 'politically neutral' method, which cannot allow voting by the majority.No party member has argued this, and Lbird will be unable to provide any evidence to this effect.
