Young Master Smeet
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As anyone who has dealt with a standard procurement contract under capitalism will tell you, the specifications run to way more than cost: if you need 5mm steel nails with teflon coating, that’s what you state. As you say, with the Soviet (I think it was actually steel plates) target by weight it was an arbitrary measurable target set from the centre. But when the customer tells you what they want, and your target is to satisfy measured customer demand (or negotiate to alter their demand based on what is easier for you to produce, could you make do with 6mm nails?).
Kantorovich’s linear equations do allow to make rational decisions between productive units to match required outputs: in his version, these outputs would be set by a central plan, but there is no reason why they could not also work for matching real expressed demand. If need be, per Dworkins cited in Dapprich, adjusted winner auctions are a useful functional way of expressing real desire/need (there is an issue, but not insurmountable of who needs to bid). Lloyd Shapley’s stable matching algorithms are also a useful method, both are rational ways of dealing with measuring demand that do not require commodity exchange. Even Dapprich’s tokens are fine: Kantorovich linear algebra to match real token demand would be functional.
As some writers have pointed out, Amazon is leading the way with this, and the reality is that you don’t need to hit optimal efficiency, but tend toward it.
Per Bijou Drains above: in reality, efficiency doesn’t matter as long as the targets, the outcomes are rational and they are met: socialism would not be a labour sparing system, and in the final analysis, that’s the nub of Mises’ complaint, that socialism isn’t capitalism.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election/2024/uk/constituencies/E14001175
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election/2024/uk/constituencies/E14001239Folkestone & Hythe 71 votes
Clapham & Brixton, 122 votesBeen out and voted: poll counters out for Corbyn and Labour only, no sign of the liberals or Conservatives. Volunteers leafletting the Tube station at Tufnell Park, and I spotted Get Out The Vote volunteers for Feinstein in Camden, I do wonder if he’ll get a measurable vote against Mr. Starmer?
So, looking at the RN manifesto, a few points stick out: there’s nothing =in there we haven’t seen from the Tories.
https://rassemblementnational.fr/22-mesures
They want to create citizen initiatives and electoral PR (they have suffered under the French system, but at least they clearly aren’t promising to end democracy).
They seem to want school uniforms and proper discipline.
“Mettre en place le patriotisme économique pour réindustrialiser et produire les richesses en France.”
Sounds like Starmerism.
“Garantir aux paysans des prix respectueux de leur travail et mettre un terme aux marges abusives de la grande distribution.”
Pitching for the peasant vote.
“Favoriser l’accès à la propriété et au logement des Français”
The Tories have done that here, vile racist stuff. Liekwise, they promise an end to immigration and an attack on Islamism.
They seem to have basically become the face of whatever French is for saloon bar bore.
A thing to consider, the now largely defunct republican Party completely dominate the Senate (it is elected by local councils, and the number of conservative rural councils have always predominated against the highly populous Paris and other cities. The next Senate election is 2026, so as RN makes gains in local government, it may increase representation in the Senate, until then, it will be a block on their programme: the question of whether the Gaullist right will capitulate to RN or obstruct will be interesting. The senate is elected by halves, so even in 2026 it’ll be unlikely for RN to make a majority. The big showdown will come in 2027 when Macron’s term is up.
The current betting seems to me to be a minority RN administration, limping on from vote to vote unable to enact its programme. Whether this will galvanise or drain it’s supporters is the big question. But France seems set for paralysis for several years.
First exit poll:
National Rally: 34%
New Popular Front: 28.1%
French President Macron’s centrist Ensemble alliance: 20.3%
Republicans: 10.2%Could be enough for an RN majority….
Lizzie45: when people act, they act consciously: when feudalism was enacted, it was the conscious creation and recreation of systems, procedures and ways of organising that suited the actors involved. When capitalism replaced it, ideologues created descriptions of the entire world and the agents who created capitalism did so in line with a conscious set of ideas (as did those who opposed them): socialism will be the first time that the majority of the population will be capable of being the agents.
Well, there’s conflicting reports he may well still be alive, but we should certainly commission the obituary and have it ready.
Just checked, anyone with more than 12% goes through, but in practice that will be the top three. If RN come first, and Macronists 2nd, I’d expect NPF to split and give some votes to the Macronists. I don’t think the favour would be reciprocated, so NPF will only win seats basically, I suspect, where they already hold them, and where they come first in the first round.
These have undoubtedly been the wildest 72 hours in French politics in my lifetime. Pretty incredible stuff.
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— Arnaud Bertrand (@RnaudBertrand) June 13, 2024
Apparently things are a bit hectic in France, the left have formed a popular front (including the “Socialist” Party), while the republican party has descended into chaos over whether to bloc with the national front, whilst other right wing parties descend into infighting: maybe Macron has wrong footed everyone.
With the French voting system, it means the New Popular Front should make it to the second round (I believe top 3 go through in Parliamentary elections).
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