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I got along to the wee rally in Camden Town, at the Cobden Statue, today. I got there ahead of the march, and there were pro-Israeli demonstrators there, I leafletted them, they weren’t very receptive, one said ‘I am a capitalist, darling’ as she refused the leaflet, one guy read it and politely returned it.
Their main chant was ‘rape is not resistance’ which is very true, and they were for peace via Hamas surrendering (which would be welcome, but seems to be unlikely).
The march itself was small, but outnumbered the counter demo by three to one.
I cleared about 20 leaflets, which was about all the crowd I cold reach (the pro-Palestine crowd were more receptive to taking leaflets.
Young Master SmeetModeratorAdmittedly, they’re Armenian nationalists, but:
Packs a punch. (This was one of two songs they brought out during the last Nagorno-Karabakh conflict).
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March 12, 2024 at 8:41 am in reply to: United leftwing general election challenge to Labour? #250966Young Master SmeetModeratorSandra Laville. (May 24, 2001, Thursday). “We want to be noticed, says far-Left leader Dave Nellist has modest plans for his Socialist Alliance” THE DAILY TELEGRAPH(LONDON)
“Others are less convinced. The Socialist Party of Great Britain, formed in 1904 and older than the Labour Party, is having none of it.
“They didn’t even approach us. They knew we would tell them to **** off,” said Bill Martin of the SPGB. “We don’t consider ourselves to be part of the Left. As the saying goes: Left-wing, Right-wing, they are all part of the same bird.”
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@Ozymandias
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Your comments and intentions seemed to me to be worthy, but in cleaning out the thread I had to remove the, and also, as above, rule 2 applies.
Young Master SmeetModeratorhttps://www.newsweek.com/lauren-boebert-theater-fondling-scandal-1839324
“Boebert gained a national spotlight in September after reports emerged that she and a date had been kicked out of a production of Beetlejuice: The Musical at downtown Denver’s Buell Theater due to their allegedly inappropriate behavior. Despite the lawmaker’s initial denial of wrongdoing, security camera footage was later released showing Boebert vaping in the theater and fondling her date in a seemingly sexual manner.”
She begins her speeches in congress by shouting ‘glory to god’…
Young Master SmeetModeratorTo their credit their definition of working class is sound, and anyone talking about a planned economy is useful because at least it gets those sorts of ideas on the table. Notably, their ideas don’t seem to far really from the Wilson government, so they say nationalisation isn’t necessary, so long as businesses work with the ‘national plan’: better than TUSC and assorted left of Labour ideas over recent years, but the reality is that much like the SSP and the SLP it’s a one man vehicle. That they’re advertising for non-members to stand, is an interesting big tent approach.
Young Master SmeetModeratorGalloway claims to be a Bennite
“I’m a disciple of the late Mr Benn. We stand for common-sense British social-ism.”
Re: Hamilton, I’m afraid he thinks Starmer is Israel’s puppet, there are a lot of dangerous ideas swirling around that many ‘leftists’ are carelessly picking up.
Young Master SmeetModeratorSeems to be working fine.
Interesting mishmash of policies, including abolishing the Mayoralty itself and repudiating the salary. Interesting to watch.
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Young Master SmeetModeratorAaron Bushnell sent the video of him burning himself to death to an Anarchist group (that is not a link to the video, I won’t).
“My name is Aaron Bushnell. I am an active-duty member of the US Air Force and I will no longer be complicit in genocide. I’m about to engage in an extreme act of protest—but compared to what people have been experiencing in Palestine at the hands of their colonizers, it’s not extreme at all. This is what our ruling class has decided will be normal.”
The socialist attitude is to ‘live for the cause’, but there is no denying the calm determined decision Bushnell made to die such a horrible death.
I hope no-one else makes this choice, but it is a symptom of a world run mad.
Young Master SmeetModeratorInterestingly, Engels once advocated voting Tory:
“What Aveling told me confirms the suspicion I already had, namely, that Keir Hardie secretly cherishes the wish to lead the new party in a dictatorial way, just as Parnell led the Irish, and that moreover he tends to sympathise with the Conservative Party rather than the Liberal opposition. He publicly declares that Parnell’s experiment, which compelled Gladstone to give in, ought to be repeated at the next election and where it is impossible to nominate a Labour candidate one should vote for the Conservatives, in order to show the Liberals the power of the party. Now this is a policy which under definite circumstances I myself recommended to the English; however, if at the very outset one does not announce it as a possible tactical move but proclaims it as tactics to be followed under any circumstances, then it smells strongly of Champion.”
Young Master SmeetModeratorYou’d have to have a heart of shit not to laugh:
Labour have disowned their by-election candidate (but their free mailout is still going out tomorrow, too late to cancel).
They’ve disowned another candidate.
Sue Gray is in trouble for unlawful leak investigations.The fish rots from the head down; when will Kier apologise?
They’re briefing and leaking like fiends: they may yet throw the election.
This is too funny for words.
Young Master SmeetModeratorI was going to dredge up that quote: but also, we need to watch out for the fascist bogey.
It’s no coincidence that the fash vote goes up under Labour governments, it suites them and the Tories. Look at France: Macron has nothing to offer the French, except that he is not the Front National, even while stealing their policies. In America, Biden is relying on the gamble that people will vote for him, while offering them nothing, because he is not Trump. It’s the magicians trick of ‘forcing’ a card on their mark. You need to vote for what you want, not against something.
Young Master SmeetModeratorAlready answered:
“the first point is honest debate is needed to try and change people’s minds alongside social practices that bring people together, a worldwide movement that attacks the reactionary interests everywhere.”
In the scenario you paint, the refugees are just as likely to be socialists from across the globe as reactionaries, and the movement in their own countries would be having these debates.
People’s mind can change (quite quickly) and if they can’t, then socialism will never happen.
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