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ParticipantThe US quietly returns thermo-nuclear bombs to the UK.
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ParticipantThe Makhnovshchina, celebrating when the Ukraine had a class conscious movement which established, if temporarily, an anarchist refuge in the south-east, fighting off nationalists, Tsarists, the Red Army, and the Hohenzollerns.
Not socialist, but the closest that the workers and peasantry of this region could get at that time. A region that today is drowning in nationalism, militarism and ignorance.Thomas_More
ParticipantA horrible thought has occurred to me.
Could we be seeing the beginnings of something that was supposedly mulled in the early 1980s: the use of the whole European continent as US proxy in a proxy war with Russia?
Or am I just hyperventilating?
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ParticipantYes. But if we are thinking of the relationship of humans with fellow animals after a socialist revolution, we would expect real meaningful changes to develop over time. Humans will have come into their own as a species and the psychology of exploitation, mastery and conquest which class society produces we can expect to fade more and more as time progresses post-revolution toward nature in its entirety. We will continue to transform our environment, but with the respect of free beings, not at the behest any more of profiteering gangsters.
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ParticipantBEASTS OF BURDEN: Capitalism, Animals & Communism. Classic anonymous pamphlet. (NOT another reformist “rights” pamphlet!)
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ParticipantYes, we should. Challenge them to a public debate. And ask them “If not, why not?”
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ParticipantAnswering questions from an Animal Equality group:
What do you wish will have changed for animals by the year 2050?
A world socialist revolution will have abolished capitalism: the system of exploitation, buying and selling, money and profit. With the profit system abolished, nothing will stand in the way of reversing ecological damage and fully implementing animal conservation tasks and projects. No longer limited by the system of money, these projects will be able to freely proceed. The removal of human exploitation will realise greater understanding of nonhuman sensibilities, and leisure will favour human education and progress in sensibility toward fellow animals.
How have the animals been freed from farms and abattoirs?
With the expropriation of the capitalist class will come the freeing of production from the profit motive. Between now and then, the number of ethical vegetarians will also have increased, a process already begun. The health risks of meat-eating will not be something a truly free humanity would wish further to expose itself to. Meat-eating will not fade away immediately, but will gradually do so – however, with no more buying and selling and no more profit system, factory farming will disappear much quicker than “organic” animal farming, which will also, if later, vanish. The horrors of capitalist animal exploitation will be remembered with repugnance and disgust, as will the horrors of today’s vivisection labs. Both will disappear. Humans, who domesticated fellow animals as “livestock” in the first place, could initiate rebreeding those animals back to their original natural forms. With less land required for farming, following the abolition of capitalism, forests could be replanted for animals to inhabit and live in freedom.
What does their new world look like?
A socialist world for fellow animals will be a happy one wherein humans will leave them alone to enjoy their own lives, which is what humans will also be doing. With the race for profits being a thing of the past, there will be no point in poisoning the environment, dumping toxins in rivers, etc. The land could be made very much greener. Motorised traffic could be phased out, now that people are no longer rushing every day to places of wage-slave labour, where they hated having to go. Railways, however, using clean forms of power, would replace the traffic-congested roads of today. No one would need to be rushing insanely about as we are today under capitalism.
With freedom to develop mutually beneficial relations and friendships with other animals where wished for, the human experience too will be radically transformed as never before, making this world a wonderful place to live, for all.Thomas_More
ParticipantWhat do NeoCons like Graham actually want? It seems as if they really want total war with Russia.
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ParticipantLeaving out the propaganda that one gets after asking “Why is Ukraine so very important to the UK, Germany and France?” (because if Kiev falls, we will be overrun with Russian jackboots), what is the REAL reason?
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ParticipantHuman dominionism arose with class society. From owning and making slaves of fellow animals, humans moved to owning and making slaves of each other. The first division of wealth arose with “live stock”, which human slaves also were. The first coins bore the imprint of cattle, and human slaves too were called chattels.
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ParticipantThe animal-torturing and bloody San Fermin “festival” is dedicated this year to Gaza.
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ParticipantIt probably will include the word. There must now be more “socialist” parties in the world than Christian churches!
I don’t know about the UK Greens, but the European Greens are gung-ho for rearmament. Hell, we know how great for the environment modern weapons are!
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ParticipantLatin “deportare” = to amuse.
Also, to carry in/bring in/transport (see portare). Hence, bringing in gladiators to a non-circus, non-official venue.Deportare became desporter in Old French, and sport, or to desport, (also meaning amuse) in English.
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ParticipantYes. Columbus himself started exterminating the native peoples as soon as he landed. Nearly all the “heroes” who have statues to themselves today were sociopathic killers.
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ParticipantColombian mercenaries in Ukraine.
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