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Putin the Pious.
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St. Josef Stalin.
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Participant“As police officers stood guard [in May 2018], two Russian Orthodox priests wearing cassocks and holding Bibles climbed out of a vehicle and began sprinkling holy water on the stationary Topol and Yars intercontinental ballistic missiles.
Priests have sanctified S-400 surface-to-air missiles, nuclear submarines, tanks and fighter jets.
Vsevolod Chaplin, an influential priest and former spokesman for the patriarch, told the Vzglyad newspaper that nuclear weapons were the country’s “guardian angels” and necessary to preserve “Orthodox civilization.”
Patriarch Kirill has described the Kremlin’s military campaign in Syria as a “holy war” [Orthodox jihad?], while uniformed clerics embedded with the armed forces are being trained to drive combat vehicles and operate communication equipment.
Russia’s nuclear arsenal also has its own patron saint — St. Seraphim, whose remains were discovered in 1991 in a disused monastery in Sarov, a small town in central Russia that was home to several key nuclear facilities in the Soviet era.
Putin has memorably described Orthodox Christianity and nuclear weapons as “twin elements of Russia’s domestic and foreign security.”
Ideas such as these have been melded into a radical ideology described as “Atomic Orthodoxy” by Yegor Kholmogorov, a nationalist writer. “To remain Orthodox, Russia must be a strong nuclear power, and to remain a strong nuclear power, Russia must be Orthodox,” Kholmogorov wrote.”
(Orthodoxy in Dialogue)
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ParticipantJust a thought here. We know TS idolises Stalin and calls him a great leader of socialism (a contradiction in terms).
However, Putin does not claim to be a socialist at all. The symbols of his state are the Tsarist double eagle (with St. George) and the flag of Imperial Russia.
Putin is openly Orthodox.
If Stalin’s name has again come to the fore, it is as a saint of the Russian Church, in ikons and holding a cross, with angels overhead. Also, St. Seraphim of Sarov, a Russian equivalent to Francis of Assisi, has been pronounced patron saint of nuclear weapons.
Now, if TS is an atheist, and if he respects analytical socialist thought, and claims that that is why he likes Stalin, then these things must be loathed by him. Stalin holding the cross of Christ!
But, on the other hand, if it is human abasement and kowtowing to authority that he ties his Stalinism to, then he will be ok with it.Thomas_More
ParticipantI agree with Alan. It is important NOT to ban TS but to ignore him and resume the thread.
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ParticipantAnd, Movimiento, remember that horrid Maoist “Democratic Worker’s Party” in America that terrorised its followers.
And Jim Jones also called himself a socialist.
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ParticipantI don’t know if he believes any of what he comes out with, or whether he’s just getting off on trolling us.
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ParticipantI remember footage of Chinese teens jumping up and down holding Mao’s little red book so frenziedly that some haemmoraged and were bleeding from the mouth.
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ParticipantWhere is the Stalin hymn from, and what is its date?
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ParticipantSaints Josef and Vladimir.
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ParticipantThe hymn resembles the obeisances to Kublai Khan.
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ParticipantPHILOSOPHY VS. IDEOLOGY
philosophy n. Gk. “Love of wisdom.”
The analysis, subjected to reason and evaluation (dependent upon a person’s evolution of thought), of impressions, desires, feelings, leading to the further elaboration of thought.
______ideology n. A body of ready-made beliefs containing its own ready-made logic; hence, accepted by a person without scrutiny and with an emotional need to ‘belong’: e.g. a follower.(See follow, v.)
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ParticipantBut there’s no depth to discuss with TS, because he is following an ideology, unlike us. His thought is laid down for him by a leadership, and that is true of all parties except us and the anarchist-communists (the mature ones, that is). But Leninists are all overgrown teenagers.
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ParticipantAnd Stalin’s shooting squads murdering thousands of peasants in the 1930s.
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ParticipantLeft, right.
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