steve colborn
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Alex, your statement, "the whole idea of socialism is being anti-Globalization so that workers have local communes and enjoy the fruits of their labour which they locally produced. " is quite some statement and as someone who considers himself a "Socialist", one with which I could not disagree with more!It is not up to Socialists today, to delineate strictures and limitations on a future Socialist society. It will be up to "future Socialists" to decide at "that time" and within the circumstances pertinent to "that time", what way "they see" Socialism progressing. Understanding that the Socialist society will only come about through the actions of a majority, who both want and understand the action they are taking part in and who actually work together to bring Socialism about.Who knows what scientific breakthroughs may happen, in a scientific community released from the onerous restrictions placed upon them by the "profit first, last and everytime" system, (Capitalism) they work under today, do you?It may be, that our future Socialist brethren will follow a more "localised" version of production, by the same token, they may not.My balls are not crystal, I cannot see the future, I trust in future "Socialists" to make any and all future decisions, in the interests of all, not as they do today, in the narrow banded interest of a tiny minority of "Social Parasites". Maybe we should leave the future, to our future selves? Steve Colborn.
By the way, I wrote my post before the post from Alan appeared but which does not detract from it's veracity but which is only validated by his post.Steve Colborn.
Yup, Marx actually said that Socialism/Communism would only come about, when the material conditions existed to make it possible. In the agrarian, feudalistic society, that existed in Russia, whether pre or post revolution, the material conditions for a revolution for and in the interests of the vast majority did not exist. One also has to factor in, the "fact", posited earlier, that Marx also understood that the Socialist/Communist revolution would, of necessity, be a world wide revolution. To replace Capitalism worldwide, with Socialism/Communism worldwide. Even though I do not have qualifications in 'geography', the last time I looked, Russia did not, nor does, encompass the whole landmass of the planet. We can take from this, one simple fact, the Russian revolution had nothing to do with the idea that Marx had, for a proletarian revolution, it was 'only' the conceptualisation of revolution as envisaged by Lenin and thereafter by his disciples, Trotsky and uncle Joe. That their idea of "revolution" was to be brought about, by "an intellectual elite", a "cadre of professional revolutionaries" is another and indicative pointer, to the fact that these 'people', did not draw their inspiration from Marx but from their own "twisted" interpretation of Marx.So let us be quite clear, Lenin and his lickspittle sycophants, were not following, in any way shape or form, the ideas, nor tenets of revolution, as espoused by Marx. You want Socialism/Communism, read Marx. You want "State-Capitalism", read and believe Lenin, Totsky, Stalin et al. But do not, in any way, transpose one set of ideas from one to the others. Intellectual redundancy is simply that, whichever way you slice it.Steve Colborn.
Genuflection, on bended knee, "to our" : ; 'holy better, has never been in my "nature". As I do not grovel to a 'spirit', I do not do the same to my, "class master".I could not imagine a worse outcome for myself, than to prostate myself to a spiritual "better" for eternity. I could consider an eternity of putting the egalitarian and democratic argument to the same. However, I cannot see this turn of events unfolding. Not the least, because I do not believe in the "divine", in whichever guise the "righteous" care to cast it.. Steve.PS see you all in hell, we'll have aparty, LOL.
"Our Object is the greatest challenge ever hurled at the world, and it is pure scientific prediction. As such, our Object is the one great consequential conclusion [i.e. consequence of determinism] of the materialist conception of history."Do not like the use the term of"determinism". A very good mate of mine, did his dissertation on, "is Marxism a determinist ideology", The quote, "the emancipation of the working classes, is the work of the working class themselves", proves that even Marx disagreed with this position! Otherwise he would have said, "history will take care of itself". Steve.
Using Windows/IE, I have found this to also problematic. Frequent Access Denied responses Matt. Will, as you ask Matt, keep a watch on performance over the next month. Steve.
I have to agree with Adam. I also, do not consider Socialism/Communism to be an "economy". Economy, as far as I am concerned is merely a way of organising, that's a laugh, a monetary, or more properly stated, an exchange economy, the society we envisage will be neither. Steve.
Indeed not Adam. I,m not rich enough to burn even an old 10 peseta note, or is that "potato"? Steve.
I think you should check your figures Adam. A single Euro is worth just less tha 90 pence. So 100 euros would be just less than £90 not £9. : ) Steve.
Thanks Ed, I appreciate your acceptance of my "sincere apology" and it was sincere and "is". I do not think, until this issue is resolved, I will be forwarding my Form A, my personal health issues would, in any case, make this problematic. Bigger and more personal issues, taking precedence. Please believe, that I was sincere, 100%. I made and posted my statement, as I said, to bring closure to an issue, that was taking "good comrades" away from what they are in the SPGB to do, propogandising for Socialism. However, it appears that rather than this outcome, my post has put "myself" again, as the centre of attention. Something I never wanted, nor intended. I am "one" Socialist, no more nor less. No more valuable nor invaluable, to our common aim, nor goal.I will restate, I have apologised and moreover gaurenteed, comradely behaviour. I do not want, nor expect a reply, merely closure, of this regretable series of events.Steve Colborn.
Tue, 07/05/2013 – 10:51pm#20BrianOfflineJoined: 08/11/2011Send PM I have yet to see any communication or statement to the effect that in future you intend using the democratic procedures available in pursuance of a complaint on the moderation of the forum.Yours For Positive Socialist ActivityBrian_____________________________________________________________________________________________ "I will go further, I will guarentee, that I will abide by what is deemed, good comradely behaviour and is expected of "comrades". "What more can I say? As I have said, I can do, moreover say, no more! I cannot make my intentions any clearer than this.Steve Colborn.
Since the thought of signing anything resembling acommitment to good behaviour seems to drive members into fits of theconniptions, I daresay everyone will agree to accept the panicky anddisingenuous declaration just received and let the whole matter drop. Again.I attempted to bring this issue to closure, by making the declaration above, in a genuine and sincere way. It was neither disingenuous, nor in any way panicky. But it appears there are still those, to whom my name is anathema. So be it, the brickbats will the bourne, as the intention was genuine, it still is. As I said, I can do no more and stand by the above.Steve Colborn.
I will go further Adam, I am ashamed that any of my actions on this site, my posts, have led to good comrades to be discussing MY, ( sorry for the capitalisation) actions on the spintcom thread, "member behaviour"). I will go further, I will guarentee, that I will abide by what is deemed, good comradely behaviour and is expected of "comrades".If I had forseen this turn of events, I would never have proceeded in my actions and posts. It was never my intention that things go this far. My apologies to all, that may have been insulted, or caused "hurt", by any of my actions!I will stand by the above, as it is only right and proper that I do so. Please, as this thread is titled, let us, "stop this".I want closure on this, hopefully this post will go some way to this end. I can do no more! My apologies to all concerned, in felicity and fraternitySteve Colborn.
