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imposs1904 wrote:A barrowload of Hardy articles and book reviews:Link: Edgar Hardcastle
And here too: https://www.marxists.org/archive/hardcastle/index.htm
So the day to go fishing is Thursday 23 June. If we take part in the campaign I think we should concentrate on attacking those calling themselves socialists who are on the Leave side, for encouraging nationalism. Saw George Galloway on TV last night addressing a meeting of UKippers and League of Empire Loyalist types and raising a laugh by starting "Comrades and Friends".
I had a vague recollection of a breakaway from the De Leonist SLP of America publishing a magazine called "Socialist Republic" and thought I had a copy but couldn't find one. So I checked on the internet, which came up with this:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/League_for_Socialist_ReconstructionIf this is what Bernie subscribed to, then the Torygraph is not all that wide of the mark because they'd be referring to another group ultimately derived from the same "Impossibilist" stable as us (though of course not having any connection with us).If that's what he subscribed to he could have done worse, e.g subscribed to some Trot rag.More on New Union Party here. Not bad except that they are dyed-in-the-wool Deleonists ("Socialist Industrial Unionists").
I thought that oil and gas had to be involved somewhere in Turkey's opposition to Syria:http://www.naturalgasasia.com/turkey-kurds-in-duel-over-energy-17741After all, it couldn't just be Erdogan's desire to impose sharia law on Syria at the end of a bayonet.
G'day. Actually you are preaching to the converted. We have been advocated a moneyless world society of abundance before Peter Joseph and even Jacque Fresco were born !Here for instance is the blurb on the back of a booklet written by two of our sympathisers during the last World War:
Quote:The new social system must be world-wide. It must be a WORLD COMMONWEALTH. The world must be regarded as one country and humanity as one people.All the people will co-operate to produce and distribute all the goods and services which are needed by mankind, each person, willingly and freely, taking part in the way he feels he can do best.All goods and services will be produced for use only, and having been produced, will be distributed, free, directly to the people so that each person's needs are fully satisfied.The land, factories, machines, mines, roads, railways, ships, and all those things which mankind needs to carry on producing the means of life, will belong to the whole of the people.There's also this article from even further back:http://www.worldsocialism.org/spgb/socialist-standard/1930s/1934/no-354-february-1934/money-businessAs to class, it wasn't meant as a criticism to say that TZM has eventually come round to recognising it. That's a good thing, though TZM seems to see the inevitable class struggle in a class-divided society as one social problm amongst many others. Whereas we see it as the motor and agent for changing from the capitalist wages-prices-money system to a classless, moneyfree society of production for use and distribution in accordance with the principle of "from each according to their ability, to each according to need". I should add that in our view the working class is not only those who work in factories but anybody compelled by economic necessity to try to sell their mental and physical skills to live, i.e the vast majority of the population. So by class struggle we mean this vast majority v the tiny minority who currently own and control the means of production and who benefit from this. Or if you like, nearly everybody v the oligarchs (Greek for the rule of the few).
Young Master Smeet wrote:http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/feb/15/crime-terrorism-and-tax-evasion-why-banks-are-waging-war-on-cash?CMP=twt_guPaul mason pedicts the end of cash, as a possible emergency government response to prompt investment:Others have also speculated on the possibility of a "cashless society'':http://www.worldsocialism.org/spgb/socialist-standard/2010s/2014/no-1318-june-2014/cooking-books-towards-cashless-society
That's as bad as the Trotskyites ! Some don't seem as bad as the others. For instance, the Ahmadists (slogan "Love for All, Hatred for None") and the Ismailis (the Aga Khan's lot) seem relatively reasonable, at least in their everyday attitudes as do the Alawites (or Nusaryi as the Sunni sectarians like IS and Al Nusra call them before killing them). And then theres's the Sufists (who IS execute as witches). The Ismailis and Druze in Syria are also trembling in their boots at the prospect being ruled by bloodthirsty phoney Sunni caliph.It is a tragedy of history that the world's biggest oil reserves should be in an area controlled by a particulary obnoxious variety of Islam, the Wahbis of "Saudi" Arabia, providing them with a parasitical income to spread their intolerant doctrine into other Muslim areas. But it's in an area inhabited by Shiites, so expect trouble at some later point in (perhaps not so distant) history.I always thought, given what happens in Iran and Saudi Arabia, that the difference between Sunnis and Shiites (mustn't forget the second i), at least between their obscrurantist priests, was over who shall throw the first stone at an adulteress or how many fingers you chop of a thief's hand.But I don't suppose ordinary nominal muslims believe what their priests say they should any more than ordinary nominal christians do (virgin birth, transubstantion, resurrection of the dead, who really belives that bollocks).
Quote:ALB, you must be able to tell the difference between an educated critic with whom you disagree (at the present), and a dishonest liar.Normally I can but I've my doubts in this case since what else can I conclude when someone repeats in almost every post that we subscribe to the view expressed by Lenin in his Materialism and Empirio-Criticism that the mind essentially reflects the outside world ("matter") and calls us "Leninists" (which they know will infuriate us in view of our consistent opposition to Leninism since the beginning) whereas we have repeatedly said that we share with the same sort of criticism Pannekoek made of this "mechanical" or "bourgeois" materialism in his Lenin As Philosopher. SP suggests that this is the action of a troll. Not necessarily, but it would be cruel to spell out the alternative explanation.Basically, for whatever reason, you've cried "Englesist", "Leninist" once too much. Enough is enough.
LBird wrote:So, we have the nonsense about 'idealism' and Kant.Indeed, we do. For instance
Quote:'Inorganic nature' is an unknowable 'in itself' ingredient for active human social theory and practice.Quote:No matter how many times I repeat that 'inorganic nature' is an 'ingredient into activity', your ideology tells you to ask 'But, what is it, when it's not an 'ingredient into activity?'.This theory that "ultimate reality" is an unobservable and so unknowable Ding an sich is pure Kant, which opens the door to all sorts of idealist and theist views. You are one and it is dishonest as well as ignorant to try to saddle Marx and certainly Pannekoek with such a view.Why not admit it instead of spreading lies about us being crude mechanical materialists who think that the mind is merely a mirror reflecting what's out there?
Vin wrote:LBird wrote:'humans create their world'?Pure idealism, LBirdMarx and SPGB, 'humans create their world from the material conditions they find at hand'
Exactly, he claims to be an oxymoronic idealist-materialist but actually he's a modern-day Kant.
The London election blog has now been reactivated:http://spgb.blogspot.co.uk/2016/02/greater-london-assembly-elections.htmlAlso, the candidates are different. They are not as announced above but Bill Martin. Kevin Parkin and Adam Buick.The election campaigns are being organised locally. If you want to help out at street stalls and/or in distributing leaflets door-to-door or at tube or mainline stations contact the local branch (see page 8 of Socialist Standard here for details).London North East: North London branch.London South West: West London branch.Lambeth & Southwark: Head Office.
In which case, Alan, you'll enjoy this similar shoot-out on the ICC forum lasy year:http://en.internationalism.org/forum/1056/link/13470/what-lbirdismWhich includes one saying
Quote:That's me done with you.and the other replying:
Quote:best wishes and don't let the door hit you on way OUT
)Needless to say, the exchange continues for another 50 posts. Instructive as well as amusing. And the insults are a bit more refined on the ICC forum despite them being violent revolutionaries.
