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Vin wrote:Just been informed that It arrived too late but will be on February agenda
OK, good…
I just don't get it. It is like a committee of members standing outside a venue preventing me from holding a party meeting. Can anyone come on here and justify this obstruction? It requires an explanation.Not withstanding the fact that the committee suspended a branch secretary for a petty misdemeanor and deleted its records albeit temporarily thus preventing the branch from holding its meetingAnd why have these members been nominated yet again to continue with their positions of obstruction?I would like a logical explanation of why I am prevented from carryng out my activities as a member.
Vin wrote:I just don't get it. It is like a committee of members standing outside a venue preventing me from holding a party meeting. Can anyone come on here and justify this obstruction? It requires an explanation.I'd have thought the analogy would be the editorial committee refusing to print a submitted article from a member.
Usually the editorial committee will explain the rejection and suggest improvements or alternaives.I'm sure they don't simply ignore submissions and don't bother to reply as it seems to be in the case of Vin who is in search of an explanation. It seems no one he has approached has offered any. And now it is taking up the valuable time of the EC.
alanjjohnstone wrote:And now it is taking up the valuable time of the EC.Not really as kicking ass of its sub-committees is part of its remit which it has seriously neglected of late. If I was back on the EC there would be one or two committees feeling the toe of my boot…
There are other issues and riks, one concern is the ownership of passwords and getting accounts back off members once they're allowed on.I wonder if it would be worth ivnesting ina somethign like a Hootsuite account:https://hootsuite.com/That might give us a safer back end and allow control.This is relevent as we're coming up to the GLA and Welsh Assembly elections, and we really need twitter accounts for the campaigns…
"one concern is the ownership of passwords and getting accounts back off members once they're allowed on."I'm not sure what you are trying to say here…that some members are not to be trusted, while others are?…"we really need twitter accounts for the campaigns…"Well, sooner volunteers get busy on Twitter, the more skilled they will become and more imaginative they learn to be for other Twitter accounts…practice makes perfect so they tell me.
Young Master Smeet wrote:There are other issues and riks, one concern is the ownership of passwords and getting accounts back off members once they're allowed on.If that is the case, the committee should say so and then explain why this is not an issue with other accounts. Remember this account was set up without IC knowledge and lay dormant until I found it. Had I been Internet and Social Media officer for NERB at the time, I could have claimed it myself and would have been officially in charge of the password.If my branch trusts me with such a position, what right have they to question its decision. Their personal opinions of me are irrelevant. Or should be. It is only a twitter account but it was my idea to set one up with the emphasis on Worldr Socialism rather than SPGB. I will probably set one up with a '-' between world and socialism but it all seems so petty and bloody minded.
alanjjohnstone wrote:I'm not sure what you are trying to say here…that some members are not to be trusted, while others are?…No, I'm saying this discussion has reminded me of this issue of passwords, and what happens if a rogue member locks the party out: i.e. that the matter does require due deliberation and perhaps a thought through strategy, rather than ad hoc actions.
alanjjohnstone wrote:And now it is taking up the valuable time of the EC.You are right. It will only get pushed back and forth for a few months and it is becoming a little stressful and frankly depressing.I may leave the EC alone and set up an official account on behalf of the world socialist movement (North East SPGB) For anyone interested in the wasted resources:https://twitter.com/WorldSocialism not a tweet
Vin wrote:If my branch trusts me with such a position, what right have they to question its decision.Yes, possibly we need to revisit rule 11 (bit late for this years conference, unless you want NERB to perhaps raise an item for discussion on Social Media policy).
Young Master Smeet wrote:There are other issues and riks, one concern is the ownership of passwords and getting accounts back off members once they're allowed on.I wonder if it would be worth ivnesting ina somethign like a Hootsuite account:https://hootsuite.com/That might give us a safer back end and allow control.This is relevent as we're coming up to the GLA and Welsh Assembly elections, and we really need twitter accounts for the campaigns…Control by who? Ordinary members? Branches?
Young Master Smeet wrote:alanjjohnstone wrote:I'm not sure what you are trying to say here…that some members are not to be trusted, while others are?…No, I'm saying this discussion has reminded me of this issue of passwords, and what happens if a rogue member locks the party out: i.e. that the matter does require due deliberation and perhaps a thought through strategy, rather than ad hoc actions.
The committee has locked me out are they 'rogue members'It is not a problem if a rogue member – and the implication is not lost on me – locks us out, as the party can claim the account from twitter as the IC have done with this account.
Vin wrote:It is not a problem if a rogue member – and the implication is not lost on me – locks us out, as the party can claim the account from twitter as the IC have done with this account.I suspect it would be more difficult if there was an 'owner' defending their control of an account, rather than a dormant account. And, I'm not implying, or insinuating anyone is a rogue member, simply that the whole issue here (and with a friend of mine who works in such circumstances) means, I think, we need a wholesale considered approach so that the membership as a whole can retain control of social media policy.And, possibly, Hootsuite, or similar, could make it easier to encourage membership invovlement in social media.
Young Master Smeet wrote:Vin wrote:If my branch trusts me with such a position, what right have they to question its decision.Yes, possibly we need to revisit rule 11 (bit late for this years conference, unless you want NERB to perhaps raise an item for discussion on Social Media policy).
wow you are really throwing the book at me. You do realise that branches and members have blogs, facebooks and twitter accounts that are ignoring rule 11 but I heard not a squeek from you about it.Are you suggesting that Alan seeks EC ratification for each of his postings? Each one is a publicationIs there a record of rule 11 being applied to this facebook account? And it's every post? https://www.facebook.com/groups/worldsocialism/Your personal prejudice just shines through. Imagine the result of such prejudice amongst people in positions of power in the party.Oh but wait we don't have to imagine, we are experiencing the results. Obstruction
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