Labour Party facing bankruptcy
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January 21, 2023 at 5:44 am #239343
Labour should consider moving to the right on social issues to appeal to floating voters who have a left-leaning stance on economic matters but are more traditional on cultural policies, a study by the right-leaning Onward think tank claims.
Onward argued that to properly secure its advantage, Starmer’s party needed to appeal more to so-called left authoritarians – those who have leftwing views on economics but are more conservative on social issues.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2023/jan/20/keir-starmer-labour-could-win-big-with-shift-to-right-on-social-issues-says-thinktankJanuary 21, 2023 at 8:29 am #239345
The Labour Party is now openly pro-capitalist and proud of it. In a declaration of political bankruptcy Starmer is on record as saying:
“When Labour held a conference for business leaders at Canary Wharf, one of London’s financial hubs, last month, Starmer said the party wasn’t just pro-business but “proudly pro-business”.
He also told world capitalist business leaders and politicians at Davos:
“that ‘the British economy will be open for business again’ under a Labour government.”
Despite all this, leftwing union leaders like Lynch and Graham will still be calling, even if lukewarmly, for workers to vote for the Labour Party in the coming general election. They must know that they will live to regret this as, sooner or later, they will come into conflict with a Labour government over their members’ pay.
The business elite in Britain too want a change of government as the Tories have run out of steam. They are quite prepared to let Labour, as their alternating government party, have a go instead.
Workers should have nothing to do with this. They shouldn’t vote for British capitalism’s other party. In fact they would be well-advised to get their unions to disaffiliate from the Labour Party and, in the absence of this, contract out of paying the political level (as we do).January 21, 2023 at 8:47 am #239346robbo203Participant
“Despite all this, leftwing union leaders like Lynch and Graham will still be calling, even if lukewarmly, for workers to vote for the Labour Party in the coming general election. They must know that they will live to regret this as, sooner or later, they will come into conflict with a Labour government over their members’ pay.”
Perhaps now might be the time for the Socialist Party to devote more attention to the (equally) grim prospect of the so-called Labour Party forming the next capitalist government. No more so-called “lesser-evilest” arguments for (reluctantly) voting Labour! This so-called lesser-evilest approach is part of the problem. It is what ensures or paves the way for the greater evil coming to prevail eventually. Except that I do not now believe there is any basis for even distinguishing between Labour and the Tories as lesser or greater evils. They are effectively the same thing
It would be good also to produce some material – maybe a leaflet for mass distribution perhaps – particularly directed at trade unions, calling on them to completely disaffiliate from the Labour Party. That should provoke some useful responsesJanuary 27, 2023 at 7:39 pm #239655
Rod Stewart expresses a growing view amongst members of the capitalist class:
https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/uk-news/sir-rod-stewart-calls-tory-26084174.ampFebruary 13, 2023 at 5:40 pm #240315robbo203Participant
The capitalist “Labour” Party, even more than the capitalist Tory Party, is now the “Party of Business” according to this report. How is it even remotely possible for anyone with even the slightest pretensions to being a “socialist”, to remain in this shoddy disreputable capitalist outfit or to urge that we vote for it on the grounds that it is the so-called “lesser evil”
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/hammer-blow-for-tories-as-ex-cameron-skills-tsar-declares-labour-is-now-the-party-of-business/ar-AA17r0fP?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=ae7cd00fd3604543b7e5ff921bb7beebFebruary 15, 2023 at 10:29 am #240389
Starmer has said Corbyn will not stand as a Labour party candidate at the next general election.February 16, 2023 at 9:46 am #240474chelmsfordParticipant
Word has it that Rod Stewart is to re-record his 1978 hit Do Ya Think I’m Sexy? as Do Ya Think I’m Lefty? However, there seems to be no truth in the rumour as I have just this moment invented it.February 23, 2023 at 10:43 pm #240796
I see Starmer is making wild and extravagant promises as to what a future Labour government under him is going to achieve, the best being this one:
“Secure the highest sustained growth in the G7 by the end of a Labour first term.”
This assumes that his government can control the way the capitalist economic system works – that it can bring about not only “growth” but “sustained growth” for a period of 5 years, ie, that the graph of Britain’s GDP will be a straight upward line with no ups and downs.
But no government can “secure” that. And of course his government will have no control either over how the economies of the other 6 members of the G7 will perform.
Everything will depend on world market conditions and no government can control or even predict what these will be over the next 5 years.
Only a fool — or someone who takes the rest of us for fools — would claim that they could. We know he’s just making another empty, politician’s promise. He probably does too.February 24, 2023 at 10:08 am #240814chelmsfordParticipant
To be fair to Starmer he has to say something(italics). Given that most people have no interest in politics but are, paradoxically (but not in a formal sense), the same people who shuffle down to the polling booth every five years, it matters not at all what Starmer says.
‘More jam in doughnuts!’ Why not? I’d buy it.March 17, 2023 at 9:22 pm #241602
The media had a feast in attacking Corbyn for his supposed apparent lack of response to the anti-semitism.
But Starmer is going unchallenged by the accusations of racism within the Labour Party
“Anti-black racism and Islamophobia is not taken as seriously as antisemitism within the Labour party, that’s the perception that has come through.”March 18, 2023 at 10:08 am #241619
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