Labour Party facing bankruptcy

January 2023 Forums General discussion Labour Party facing bankruptcy

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  • #231819
    ALB
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    That’s good. The more that do that the merrier. But let’s hope he’s not going to join the Scotch Nats. In any event he is wrong about Starmer & Co going after voters in “the shires of England”. Labour’s leaders know that it has no chance there and have left the field(s) there free for the Liberals to go after Tory voters. Their strategy is to win over voters in urban areas of England. They may have miscalculated this time as there is quite a bit of sympathy from other workers with the RMT and other strikers.

    Starmer seems to be following Neil Kinnock’s advice of “getting the betrayal in first”, ie, before being elected, instead, that is, of waiting to be in government to do this. As a self-styled “government in waiting” he wants it to act as it will, and will have to if it was the government.

    (Incidentally I’ve searched on the internet to find this quote from Kinnock but haven’t been able to find it, if anyone knows when and where — and if — he said it.)

    Sharon Graham of Unite hit the nail on the head when she said that Labour was “becoming more and more irrelevant to ordinary working people”.

    I don’t know if it means anything but we have received a couple of enquiries in recent weeks about membership from people resigning from the Labour Party.

    #231853
    ALB
    Keymaster

    I have found a reference to Kinnock saying getting betrayal in first, though not to when he would have originally said it. It is in an article in the Independent by Andrew Marr on 19 April 1995.

    It is no accident that the article was about the relationship between the Labour Party and the trade unions. Here’s what Marr wrote:

    ”One day, it seems, Tony Blair is likely to be in Number Ten and, therefore almost certainly, will be in confrontation with public sector workers. He has, in Neil Kinnock’s rueful phrase, got his betrayal in first.”

    Substitute “Keir Starmer” for “Tony Blair” and Marr could have been be writing today.

    https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/blair-can-dump-unions-but-not-the-poor-1616359.html

    #231883
    james19
    Participant

    This from the Daily Mail…

    Union barons threaten to axe Labour cash over sacking

    https://mol.im/a/11064837

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    #232183
    alanjjohnstone
    Keymaster

    Surprisingly, I cannot recall the mainstream media having a sit-down with Jeremy Corbyn so he could offer his opinion since the Forde Report emerged. He is indeed the forgotten man

    #232314
    alanjjohnstone
    Keymaster

    Are the SNP now the left-wing proponents of nationalisation rather than the Old Labourites?

    https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-62623751

    #233538
    alanjjohnstone
    Keymaster

    https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/9/23/unprecedented-leak-exposes-inner-workings-of-uk-labour-party

    The data reveals how the party’s bureaucrats, whose nominal function is to serve the interests of the party, attempted to undermine members supportive of Jeremy Corbyn, Labour’s leader from 2015 to 2020.

    #233630
    alanjjohnstone
    Keymaster

    The Labour Party conference sings God Save the King. Simply expressing what has always been their position.
    Will the sing the Red Flag at the closing of the conference?

    #233646
    ALB
    Keymaster

    Yes, a new depth for them. They are completely bankrupt and worse. What a despicable, unprincipled gang of self-seeking opportunists they are.

    That won’t stop trots and other leftwingers (Lynch, Ward, Graham and other left trade union leaders) calling on workers to vote for them at the next election.

    As the song says, jokers to the right, clowns to the left. I know saying this encourages people to be anti-politician and even anti-politics but it’s true.

    #233655
    Lizzie45
    Participant

    “The Labour Party conference sings God Save the King. Simply expressing what has always been their position.”

    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/sep/25/not-a-hint-of-a-heckle-for-the-least-labour-thing-youll-see-at-a-labour-conference

    #233694
    alanjjohnstone
    Keymaster

    New New Labour

    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/sep/26/labour-conference-starmer-party-financial-responsibility

    Lisa Nandy said the party was “coming back to finish the job” of New Labour, with the party undergoing a dramatic transformation and now “fit to govern”.

    #233767
    alanjjohnstone
    Keymaster

    It was Al Jazeera that brought to the public The Lobby, Israel’s attempts to discredit Corbyn.

    Now they have a series called the Labour Files delving deep into the smears against Corbyn.

    Seen along the ignored Ford Report, it seems as if the UK media goes in for self-censorship, hoping that investigative reporting by a foreign TV is sufficient to question its credibility

    #234872
    alanjjohnstone
    Keymaster

    We shouldn’t be surprised

    “prawn cocktail offensive 2.0”

    Labour is accelerating meetings with leaders of Britain’s biggest companies, as it steps up its efforts to woo the City

    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/oct/23/labour-woo-business-prawn-cocktail-offensive

    #234879
    alanjjohnstone
    Keymaster

    #234888
    alanjjohnstone
    Keymaster

    Starmer has said he would continue with Tory plans for stiff sentences for climate protesters who block roads

    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/oct/24/keir-starmer-backs-stiff-sentences-for-climate-protesters-who-block-roads

    #235397
    alanjjohnstone
    Keymaster

    Labour Together – a network of MPs, staffers, members and thinktanks – has been appointed to build a more “coherent narrative”.

    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/nov/01/labour-needs-more-coherent-narrative-to-win-election-starmer-told

    It is all to be about the message from now on.

    “What matters isn’t that Labour has a huge long list of policies that covers every area. It’s that people understand what Labour’s priorities are. That’s the most important thing. And what it needs to communicate that effectively is a few very focused policies…”

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