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Tristan Miller wrote:I can't help but wonder whether you may be looking at an older copy of Branch Standing Orders. Are you aware that they were revised in 2013 to include a set of orders designed specifically for bulletin boards and e-mail lists? If you think those new orders are somehow deficient, that's fair enough, and it would be great to hear your suggestions on how they could be improved. But I don't think it's fair to claim that they were not designed to be used for online correspondence.
I think I have tried to use the bulletin board version. The main problems I'd suggest are the requirement for an awful lot of phatic communication, it starts with the roll-call, then an election of chair, vote on chair, etc. Before you've even started discussing anything substantial, each person has to make four or five posts, and, of course, not everyone is there at the same time, and we time out before we begin. Plus, most people have not read and digested the long and detailed SO's and that makes it hard to keep them to them.I've tried thinking of alternatives, based on simultaneous threadsFixes I'd suggest are: chair automatically presumed to second all motions (cuts out seconding emails).All voting happening at the end of the meeting (and the voting being the roll-call for attendance).Allowing a volunteer chair (at least for the first meeting, or making a permenant chair branch post, so each meeting doesn't have to spend acres of time electing one).So you'd have three phases: agenda, discussion, voting.This is a rough sketch, but it gets closer to something workable. I'd also throw in raised quorum for online meetings, backed up with either a physical meeting once a year top ratify all business, or a paper referendum.
https://twitter.com/daily_politics/status/727813788230000640The gift that keeps on giving, Andrew neil dissecting forming Tory Chair Grant Shapps. Note how he claims not to shirk responsibility, as a way to shirk responsibility…
Of all the various problems in the world, the small border dispute between Israel and Palestine is not one we should really be flexing much energy about…
Ticktin has long form in this area, in the excellent book: Market socialism : the debate among socialists[edited by Bertell Ollman] / participants, David Schweickart … [et al.]. He took the non-market side (he suggested lots and lots of surveys). Pre-dates that debate with Adam a touch.
moderator1 wrote:Bill you can be so confusing and hard work on times! There is no 'closed account' option. You go into Edit scroll down and click on the Blocked box. Done.I can't see a 'blocked' box neither…
Hmm, I can't see a 'close account' option, but couldn' you:1) Put in a dummy email address e.g. made.up@made.up.com2) Tap some random letters into a text editor.3) Copy and paste them into the password field and confirmation4) Save the changes, and delete the random passowordThat way you'd not have password access, and you'd be unable to receive a retrieval email.If you really want to do that.
Well, that's been part of a deliberate policy to 'take peopel out of taxation', I suppose over the last few years. An ideological spin off is that Tories like to quote that percentage of income tax from higher earners to try and portray the idea that the rich do pay their 'fair share' or more (leaving aside that excise duty and VAT and council are paid by everyone and are deeply regressive*). *pay ≠ burden
And, in a re-run of 'the drift back to work' we have BBC journalists tell us that, while a majority of people polled support the strike, that majority is falling.
Quote:It comes as a new poll by Ipsos MORI for the BBC showed the majority of the public still backed junior doctors, although support was not as high since it became an all-out stoppage.Asked whether they supported junior doctors striking while not providing emergency cover, 57% said they would and 26% said they were opposed.http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-36134103Now, while the decline might be true, the narrative could be on the public support, rather than the fall…
You were saying? http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-eu-referendum-36126993
Quote:The UK will face a future migration "free-for-all" unless it leaves the European Union, Justice Secretary Michael Gove has warned.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nzwL3N5x8G0Hammer, hammer, hammer…
https://twitter.com/MichaelLCrick/status/722789260882026500the Tories are back peddling… And yet it moves…
Well, one journalist has mounted his high horse:http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-36072119
lindanesocialist wrote:It is the responsibilty of the Internet Committee to make it's documents open to public scrutiny.It's not the job of the EC, neither. For any documents you want to see, email spgb@worldsocialism.org and the HOO or Gen Sec will provide them.This may not happen instantly, because we are a small organisation with few volunteers (and comrades should remember this when expectign standards of bureaucracy comparable to a government department).
