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  • in reply to: Capitalism’s animal holocaust continues. #232743
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    Idaho, Montana, and Wyoming allow some of the most vicious murdering methods of gray wolves. It’s completely legal to choke gray wolves to death with painful snares, maim and mangle their helpless bodies with traps, chase them down with helicopters until they’re so weak and tired they cannot run, and hunters can even blow up wolves in their homes, including nursing mothers and their pups, while seeking refuge in their dens.

    in reply to: Why our approach fails to appeal. #232694
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    And, of historians and professors, how many are socialists?
    Bear in mind too that, although I am the elitist, you expect socialism to come about thanks to historians (academics).

    At university the professors lumped the SPGB with the leftists as immature and extremist.

    My adverts for SPGB meetings, rejected and ridiculed by the student union paper, were published instead in the Church of England university chaplain’s circular.

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    in reply to: Why our approach fails to appeal. #232693
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    You’re obviously circulating with like-minded people.
    Those I meet think Chaucer was 1800s, the American Civil War 1920s, and that early humans hunted dinosaurs.

    in reply to: Why our approach fails to appeal. #232689
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    So the historians are going to make socialism, are they?

    Most people have no idea of the English Civil War or Age of Enlightenment, and don’t know what a bourgeois is. “Something foreign?”

    in reply to: Why our approach fails to appeal. #232684
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    Carrying on regardless, as is our duty.

    in reply to: Why our approach fails to appeal. #232678
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    The chance was lost the moment Lenin & Co. decided to steal the words socialism and communism.

    in reply to: Why our approach fails to appeal. #232677
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    Exactly!

    in reply to: Why our approach fails to appeal. #232673
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    How many were Labour voters anyway, voting by habit, as Tory voters do? I know Labour voters who switched, too, because they hated Corbyn and called him a Marxist.
    Plus, if you circulate among the “socialistic” Left, you’re not getting a true picture of the majority, who are apolitical.

    in reply to: Why our approach fails to appeal. #232671
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    It’s the bloody Left more than anything else.
    For a century they’ve drowned us out and bandied the word socialism about, making it a word that instantly repels.

    in reply to: Why our approach fails to appeal. #232668
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    ” our case for socialism is so strong as to be incontestable. ”

    True, but that again assumes that what is rational must prevail.

    Workers are working hard every day at things which make the end of the world ever more likely, and therefore their own end. They do it because they need the money, and they’ll oppose us every step of the way when we talk about ending the wages system. A few protest about this and that, who are not in such jobs, but the majority continue, like kamikaze pilots, sealing the demise of life on this globe.

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    in reply to: Why our approach fails to appeal. #232666
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    I know this. What we are discussing is how to overcome the timidity and the things standing in our way.

    in reply to: Why our approach fails to appeal. #232662
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    Saying nation-states will disappear is more likely to arouse immediate ire against us than saying money will disappear.

    (By the way, has any member been to a function (football, concert) and actually remained seated during the national anthem? I’d be interested to know the reaction you received).

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    in reply to: Why our approach fails to appeal. #232661
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    But Lizzie is right.

    The populists, right wingers etc. are not suggesting a different system of society.

    People just can’t envisage taking control by themselves. Their whole upbringing is to rely on authoritarian figures. Even when they go on strike, they are petitioning the bosses. Even the angriest follow a group and leaders, and petition those in power to “do the right thing” – and seldom does that even succeed.

    I don’t think mainstream religion is an issue. But nationalism certainly is. National flags are the modern idols of the mass of workers. Even protesters wave national flags when protesting racism, war, etc.

    in reply to: Cost of living crisis #232629
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    Being put in “jobclubs” etc. several times for us unemployed “scroungers”, I found my fellow jobless, much worse off than me, very very Tory.
    And every homeless man i’ve met has boasted of his military exploits and told me we need the draft back.

    in reply to: Cost of living crisis #232627
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    I agree. There is no alternative. It remains our duty to persist.

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