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ParticipantI should have specified. But even atheist academics say there was an historical Jesus. As anyone reading this thread should be able to see, I don’t.
There is no evidence at all for an historical Jesus, nor for any of the apostles. But this is a “fringe view” in the academic world and is not taken seriously. Please read the thread before commenting. Thank you.
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Participant” The time has already passed; Nero is dead, and the Roman Empire collapsed; therefore, churches are only preaching fears.”
The Roman Empire was entering its most powerful era. This particular Apocalypse (of John – there were many) was written in the 90s CE; Rome still had 400 years of empire.
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Participant” The number 666 has nothing to do with wars and antichrists; it refers to a Roman emperor known as Nero.”
Yes, but it was written during the Nero Revivication era. For decades after his death, it was hoped by the Roman proletariat that Nero would return. For them he was the most popular and loved Emperor. The numbers 666 came to represent him and were also thus a symbol of Rome.
Even Christian writers, who promoted the myth of persecution never applied it to Nero’s reign and would surely have done so had there been any Neronian persecution.Thomas_More
Participant” It is a book based on signs; it was symbolically written for the Christian communities of the first century that were persecuted by the Roman.”
There was no Roman persecution. See Candida Moss, The Myth of Persecution.
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ParticipantThe hypocrites use contraception?
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ParticipantEzekiel sees God’s genitalia.
“Upward from what looked to be His motnayim (groin) I saw it sparkling like amber; it seemed to be enveloped all around by fire.”
(Quoted from God: An Anatomy.)
Likewise (ibid.) Isaiah sees Yahweh enthroned in the Temple, which is filled by His shul, that is to say His genitalia.
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ParticipantThe world isn’t going backwards, it’s just going somewhere that isn’t any life worth living. Certainly not socialism.
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ParticipantAnd the hikikomori in Japan: an increasing number of young men who never leave their rooms but just rot in them; no friends, no social or sexual life; all “relationships” with fictional AI “virtual girlfriends” on their phones.
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ParticipantBJ -https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historical_Jesus
Historical Jesus.
” Richard Dawkins acknowledges that a normal human man named Jesus likely lived, though he firmly rejects the supernatural claims, divinity, and miracles associated with Jesus Christ. In his book The God Delusion, Dawkins initially suggested that the historical case for Jesus not existing at all was plausible, but he has since recognized and conceded the mainstream academic consensus that a historical preacher from Nazareth did walk the earth.Dawkins’ View on the Historical JesusAccepts a human teacher: Dawkins agrees that an itinerant Jewish preacher named Jesus lived in the first century and was eventually crucified.Rejects the divine: He views Jesus as a mortal man, stating that Jesus was a theist because “back then everyone was”.Denies miracles: He completely rejects claims of the resurrection, virgin birth, and turning water into wine as religious myth rather than factual history.Scholarly ContextMainstream consensus: Virtually all professional historians, whether Christian or atheist (such as prominent New Testament scholar Bart Ehrman), agree that Jesus was a historical figure.Mythicism minority: The idea that Jesus never existed at all is treated as a fringe theory by mainstream historians, which is why Dawkins faced criticism from both believers and secular historians for previously suggesting it was a serious academic debate.”
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ParticipantHistory and geography are now specialist subjects. They used to be basic.
Every child in school received an atlas. Today people travel more, but many cannot point on a map to where they’ve been. Many have no geographical awareness, and no chronological awareness of history.Thomas_More
ParticipantYes. Medieval schooling was based on the Humanities.
Now, only “business” matters. In the US universities now run courses on Taylor Swift!!!!
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ParticipantWith bookshops long gone, bar one, where I am, there is no joy for me in going to town. My childhood and youth was thrilled by bookshops, especially old used book shops, where one could browse for as long as one wanted.
I will never have an e-reader.
Children today do not know the joy I had in books, and comics. Every Saturday my dad and I would go browsing the bookshops. I would also get an educational children’s magazine called World of Wonder, and also a funny comic. World of Wonder taught me the basics of history, my favourite subject, and I still have the collection. It came with wall charts too on exploration, science and ancient civilisations.
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ParticipantUnable to read.
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ParticipantAnd the majority of academics in universities still hold that there was an historical Jesus.
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Participant” they do not care if children are killed, pregnants women ”
This is from God: An Anatomy:
…the Jesus of the New Testament Gospels presents marriage and childbirth as a relic of a former age of spiritual ignorance that his death and resurrection would destroy.
By the second century CE this hostility [to sex] had intensified. In … the Acts of Thomas the risen Jesus appears in the bedchamber of a newly married couple on their wedding night urging them not to have sex. “Know that if you refrain from this filthy intercourse you become temples holy and pure, and you will not be involved in the cares of life and children, whose end is destruction.” (Suffer little children indeed!)-
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