Thomas_More
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“China are now building a modern socialist nation”.
If you believe that you’ll believe anything.
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Yes. The trouble is that most people just take that as so.
Most people are not in-depth thinkers, are not interested anyway, and go by common usage, names and labels.They don’t know what socialism is, don’t care; so why wouldn’t they believe it? And that goes for most Chinese too.
It seems people, including those who know of the SPGB, and who have read something of Marx and others, will go out of their way, and go out of their way, and yet again go out of their way, to avoid our case, no matter how devastating things get under capitalism. They’ll come up with ever more reformist parties and ever more reformist dead-end, repeated projects to hide and avoid the urgency of real socialism. And this is true on the street too, and not just among “the Left.”
So, is it correct to say not all members of the working class produce surplus value, but are still wage-slaves, in that they are members of the class which is compelled to work in order to live?
(Whereas an individual capitalist might work for fun, but doesn’t need to in order to live).Entertainers and writers can be said to produce surplus value, because a television production, or major theatre production, or film, are products which are sold. Hence, screenwriters, comedians, actors etc., are salary workers paid for their labour but not reaping the value going to the tv company, film company etc. Exceptions would be drama co-operatives I suppose.
Why are Merz & Co. doing their utmost to invite a devastating Russian military attack down on Europe?
Here we are then:
https://ukdefencejournal.org.uk/us-nukes-deployed-to-england-for-first-time-in-over-a-decade/
Safe, it’s not Russian!
I know that. But whichever news outlet one refers to is propaganda.
The BBC and Sky at the moment are unwatchable.
Are you saying the report is false?
The US quietly returns thermo-nuclear bombs to the UK.
The Makhnovshchina, celebrating when the Ukraine had a class conscious movement which established, if temporarily, an anarchist refuge in the south-east, fighting off nationalists, Tsarists, the Red Army, and the Hohenzollerns.
Not socialist, but the closest that the workers and peasantry of this region could get at that time. A region that today is drowning in nationalism, militarism and ignorance.A horrible thought has occurred to me.
Could we be seeing the beginnings of something that was supposedly mulled in the early 1980s: the use of the whole European continent as US proxy in a proxy war with Russia?
Or am I just hyperventilating?
Yes. But if we are thinking of the relationship of humans with fellow animals after a socialist revolution, we would expect real meaningful changes to develop over time. Humans will have come into their own as a species and the psychology of exploitation, mastery and conquest which class society produces we can expect to fade more and more as time progresses post-revolution toward nature in its entirety. We will continue to transform our environment, but with the respect of free beings, not at the behest any more of profiteering gangsters.
