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  • in reply to: Gerontobigotry. #262783
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    How many times do we hear from elders: “Youngsters don’t know how lucky they are!” “In my day they’d have got what was coming!” “Bring back hanging. That’ll sort them!”
    And “Our dad would take his belt off to us”, said with great relish as though it was a virtue?

    in reply to: Gerontobigotry. #262782
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    Very well said.

    In a similar vein, an American made a quip that many love their cars more than their children. S/he pointed out that people whose sons/daughters/grandsons/grandaughters have been killed or mutilated through war don’t hate the authorities that sent them to war. Instead, they become even more militaristic, jingoistic, and fawning than they were before.
    Whereas, if someone damages their cars, they know whom to blame straightaway!

    in reply to: Underplayed Classics #262780
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    Bound for Van Diemen’s Land.

    in reply to: Blackbeard my hero. #262770
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    Libertalia, where everything was held in common.

    in reply to: Underplayed Classics #262749
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    Kett’s rebellion against enclosures, 1549.

    in reply to: Underplayed Classics #262731
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    The Tiller’s Tale
    (Monmouth Rebellion, 1685).

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    in reply to: Russian Tensions #262663
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    War between Russia and NATO by 2029.

    https://tass.com/politics/2078287

    in reply to: Body fascism. #262614
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    To repeat, I’m not talking about rules of dress, but neurosis. And primarily neurosis about one’s body: leading to bulimia and other psychological illnesses.

    Young noblemen of the 16th century and earlier would have been fit: not for body image or sexual attractiveness, but for war. They learned to ride while small children, and to fight in armour with sword, axe, lance and shield. Peasants worked in the fields from childhood too. Hardly either were navel-gazing over their waistlines or whether they stank, nor about what other members of their class were thinking of them.

    in reply to: Body fascism. #262608
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    But was he neurotic about it, or was he preoccupied with pleasure?

    I am referring to modern mass neuroses in the post-industrial world. The preening of Renaissance aristocrats is not part of this. Were they cowered – like modern wage-slaves are? I think not.

    in reply to: Body fascism. #262596
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    I see no evidence of body obsession/neurosis prior to the 1890s, especially none where men are concerned. Nor in peasant communities. Indians who bathe in the Ganges I doubt are worrying what others think of their bodies or looks.

    in reply to: Body fascism. #262594
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    I think the majority of the working class’ valuing of each other prioritises the physical, the manual, and the sportive.

    Unless one occupies an academic position which brings in a high salary, and can therefore choose one’s social milieu accordingly, intellectual attributes are of little consequence in others’ eyes.

    in reply to: Body fascism. #262585
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    I agree. It was the title of the documentary, though.

    It was also pioneered in Europe by Goebbels and Riefenstahl, if that justifies the term?

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    in reply to: Russian Tensions #262491
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    Now that some sort of agreement has been reached over Greenland, the old yarn is being repeated yet again: Ukraine will join NATO and the EU, and Russia has “lost” in Ukraine.

    And Greenland is apparently a lovely big block of ice over which missiles can fly.

    in reply to: Patriotism #262476
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    The Hofer brothers.

    in reply to: Capital of slavery #262475
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    Honest Abe?

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