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ParticipantSuch paucity of ideas and imagination. But what can you expect from the advocates of profits before all.
After the flooding in Germany I wonder what token gestures the government will make there. The writing on the wall gets bigger and bigger.
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ParticipantIf he fears the word capitalism is becoming a bad word, presumably Luntz’s objective is to make capitalism sound nicer and therefore appear nicer without wanting people to actually change it. At least he didn’t manage to find a nicer word to foist onto people, which is something.
As for socialism being more popular, of course that word means at least as many different things to different people as capitalism does, generally centred on reformism and state palliatives. When 36% of people equate it with common ownership and the total abolition of capitalism (whatever it’s called by then), we’ll be getting somewhere.
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ParticipantOn the slightly related subject of space travel by humans, the view of space scientists like Brian Cox seems to be ‘we’re plundering and ruining the planet, let’s go into space to find another to plunder and ruin’.
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ParticipantAt least it’s nice to see some mega-rich types eating humble pie. They must have foreseen some opposition but not this much.
As to the merit-based, pyramid-based model of the professional football world, as espoused pretty much universally by those who opposed the ESL, maybe as socialists we could say that it’s ok if restricted to sport but I’m sure we don’t subscribe to it for society in general.
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ParticipantFrom the BBC website:
Leeds boss Marcelo Bielsa was also critical of the Super League proposal.
“It shouldn’t surprise us,” he told the BBC. “In all walks of life the powerful look after their own and don’t worry about the rest of us.
“The big teams are also created due to the opposition of the other teams. In the search for higher economic earnings they forget about the rest. The powerful are more rich and the weak are poorer. It doesn’t do good to football in general.”
Among other groups, the players of these clubs have been completely bypassed. Ok, some if not all of them are pretty rich in their own right but they have no option really but to follow the clubs if they want to stay in the big time.
But can someone tell me why the government has jumped right in and is showing so much interest? Is it just to gain a bit of popularity?
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ParticipantMaybe he needs telling that he doesn’t have to be an economist to see that capitalism needs to go. Indeed, economists are probably among the last people who’d say this.
In his wildlife programmes he talks of humans causing the problems, but on primetime viewing he probably wouldn’t get away with putting the finger on capitalism directly even if he thought so.
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ParticipantA similar fuss was made when the Premier League started. And when the European Cup became the Champions League. Cynicism, betrayal of grass roots etc. etc. Admittedly without (as far as I can remember) the government sticking their oar in. And without the prospect of a league where most clubs will never get relegated and will be able to play one another ad infinitum.
Let’s not forget UEFA have their own plans for lining their pockets further by bloating the Champions League. And of course the World Cup keeps getting bigger.
When the hoo-ha dies down fans of these big clubs will still shell out for replica shirts and tickets to watch their much-loved idols, most of whom move on after two or three years anyway. The cynicism on one side is matched by the naivete on the other. But isn’t that a reflection of life in general under capitalism?
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ParticipantHe has never learnt to substitute “the capitalist system” for “humans”.
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ParticipantI had my second jab today and one of the people on duty told me I might need a booster later in the year. As it’s unlikely this would be taken out of current stocks (the shelf life of the vaccines seems to be about 6 months), maybe a programme of manufacturing lucrative repeat jabs is already becoming reality.
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ParticipantAll of which makes little old UK’s targets to be carbon neutral somewhat pointless, even if achievable.
Added to which the mentality of most eco types seems to be that we can all only do our bit by recycling, avoiding products with dodgy ingredients, and setting up yet another conservation group, leaving the bigger problems to the big boys.
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ParticipantJust idle musing, but if socialism had been established before the digital age happened, I wonder if it would ever have come about? After all it’s almost totally a response to the commercial demands of advanced capitalism. Though it would have come in useful for say large scale referendums.
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ParticipantHe’ll be back.
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Participant“Do you assume that the masses can’t do physics?”
Well, I’m one of the masses and my physics is fairly rudimentary (‘O’ level standard, much of it forgotten now).
How about you, LBird? You’re one of the masses aren’t you? How much physics can you do? Are you self-taught, do you have a first class degree in it, or are you proposing to get one before the socialist revolution?
How much physics do we all need to know before we can start the revolution? How about chemistry, biology, quantum mechanics, musical theory and the rules of football? Do you have an estimate of how long it will all take?
Please tell.
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ParticipantAh yes. Not hew (or he).
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ParticipantHew only meant literally in a figurative sense.
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