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ParticipantJust watched this. FUCKIN BRILLIANT! Has to be the most real thing I've seen on telly. Wish to fuck it was me. I applied to get in the audience for the Question Time game show but no such luck!
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ParticipantDoes this document give anyone hope? Is the "Left" slowly evolving?
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ParticipantSometimes I check out this website… http://www.vigilantcitizen.com which among other things investigates the recurring satanic meme currently running though popular culture. Yes this is deep conspiracy theory territory but much of the evidence seems compelling. I come away thinking "surely this shit can't be real". The conspiracists would say I'm thinking the way the masters want me to think because the "Illuminati" operate…by flinging everything glarlingly in our faces. I think there are more than a few true grains of truth in the whole conspiracy thing.BTW did anyone watch the documentary last week about the "Secret Life of Uri Geller"? That shit terrified me. What fuckin chance have we got?
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ParticipantEven if we delve into the realms of science fiction fantasy and imagine a scenario where humanity is on the brink of world revolution, the whole thing could go tits up with the action of just a few crazed workers. Working class self sabotage and pro-slavery could plunge the world into global nuclear conflict, mass viruses, chemical/bilogical hell or environmental apocalypse…even if we are at the precipice of making history. It only takes one fucked up worker in the right place to create a chain reaction. Think vast spy agencies, religious fanatics, cults, elite military squadrons and fundamentalists who for instance are currently bankrolling illegal Israeli settlements in order to hasten nuclear armageddon which they hope might bring on the "Rapture". A couple of years ago I read the US military were experimenting with warping the very fabric of space time by trying to create mini time loops and tiny black holes in their laboratories. What secrets do these bastards have in store for us and how many stupid prole cretins would be eager to carry out all of their orders? It only takes a few idiot workers to destroy everything. I hope I'm wrong but this is a very real possibility which may prove Carl Sagan right in the end. I'm sorry but I think we are fucked.
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ParticipantI enjoyed the first movie but I haven't seen the trailer for the sequel. Here is an article from conspiracy theory website "The Vigilant Citizen" http://vigilantcitizen.com/moviesandtv/the-hunger-games-a-glimpse-at-the-new-world-order/ The idea here is that many mainstream Hollywood movies are produced with a view to de-sensitize, pre-programme and inure workers into subliminally accepting totalitarian fascism (or NWO as they call it) as an inevitability. I confess that I sometimes visit David Icke's website as well as Vigilant Citizen. One half of me thinks this shit is preposterous…but when I start looking into drone warfare, high ranking paedophilia, false flag events, vatican cover-ups, subliminal messages in music video's, movies and fashion magazines, royal largesse, heraldic symbolism and rumours of elite satanism as well as watching the utter lies in our TV schedules (not just in the news but in almost every programme) I begin to think some of this shit is fuckin real. Horribly real.
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ParticipantWhat really depresses me about the old bastard was that in effect she was born a member of the working class…having come from a background of small shopkeepers. That she re-invented herself as one of the worst enemies of her own class is all the more tragic and proof that given the opportunity most proles would trade places with the capitalists. They are thick as shit that's why…and now with the internet they are only getting thicker.
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ParticipantAm just hoping this debate will be filmed. Will look forward to seeing it if so.
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Participant"Thank you Socialist guy for putting us in our box of "Communism". Now go away. You don't get it. An entire article of him trying to understand TZM by comparing it to antiquated bullshit. Man he was trying real hard to find that box! COMMUNISM?! SOCIALISM?! MARXISM?! ARRRRAHHH I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO WITH THESE GUYS MY BRAIN IS EXPLODING!"This is the latest comment from a TZM member on a thread which has been running here on the TZM global website http://thezeitgeistmovementforum.org/showthread.php?433-Socialist-Perspective-on-TZM-2012-13-Orientation-Guide-Part-1-Adam-Buick-SPGB-WSMI just find this really depressing. 5 years ago when TZM came on the scene I was thinking it would be a great opportunity for WSM and TZM to interact and create sparks. This is never going to happen is it? I think TZM are going nowhere at the moment. The initial buzz has dampened with traffic on the new TZM website about a tenth of what it was 5 years ago. They are a nebulous web based phenomena with no card carrying members. They are not organised politically, democratically or consciously.
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ParticipantI think some SPGBers should answer some of the ignorant points made here… http://thezeitgeistmovementforum.org/showthread.php?433-Socialist-Perspective-on-TZM-2012-13-Orientation-Guide-Part-1-Adam-Buick-SPGB-WSM&p=890#post890 These people clearly have no understanding about how society is organised and they know bugger all about Marx.
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ParticipantThanks for this guys! I was thinking of going to see the new movie about this character. If only because the score is written by my favourite film composer John Williams. I have most of the scores he ever wrote on CD since (along with Herrmann) he is the daddy of them all…sorry to digress here! I also thought being a Speilberg effort it would at least look good with good costumes, sets etc. However I guess it will be a whitewash of Obama tinged patriotism which will make me wretch. I'll just buy Williams' soundtrack album…nah fuck it I'll get my mate to steal it for me from an "illegal" downloading site!
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ParticipantI had a look at the website but I don't trust this shit. The minute I saw photo's of red flags with hammers and sickles, talk of revisionism vs anti-revisionism, "Imperialism" and "cadre development and leadership" I just turned off. It's the sick lexicon of the "Left"…it fills me with monstrous anger and rage. The problem for me with the "Left" is that as long as they continue to identify themselves as being on "the Left" then I wouldn't trust them as far as I could throw them no matter what they call themselves.
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ParticipantMore about the Baltic Dry Index here… http://www.thedailysheeple.com/global-economic-slowdown-signals-sad-new-year_122012 How bad could this actually get? Reminds me of a front page from the Standard from a couple of years ago which stated "You ain't seen nothing yet".
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Participant"I'm not quite sure why we're discussing accents in a thread on Zeitgeist since, being in the Technocracy tradition, they probably think we should all speak like Stephen Hawking".Fuckin excellent!
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ParticipantI have never read an article in the Standard concerning regional accents and how they have impacted on the class divide. To me as a Glaswegian, listening to the entire myriad of different accents and inflections is always a musical delight for me. It's generally the earthiest accents which always interest me the most. The hundreds of different ways we proles talk in this island is a thing of beauty.
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ParticipantSo what you are saying is that the working class could end up becoming a mass of Epsilons whilst the competing Alpha's control Frankenstein style dystopian states…with the prospect of class consciousness more and more unlikely without access to all of the essentials of education and life in general?Master smeet could you give me a link to the article you wrote? Aren't there some in the party who believe the problem of "Recursive Robotics" (a term I've never heard of) is a misnomer because the task of actually building and designing robots will make up the shortfall of other lost jobs which are irretrievably lost. I don't know enough about this issue. Does the party have one single stance on this?
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