Ozymandias
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Obviously the guy making the video is just inviting us to laugh along with him at how utterly stupid the majority of US workers are. I actually think the Internet is making workers more and more dense. Not the other way round. This along with online porn, football, gadgets, daily rags, shit on telly, faecesbook, celebrity twitter tattle, mind numbing movies, religion and video games. Dished up to appeal to the addictive side of human behaviour. Workers minds are dormant. They are now more stupid than they've ever been in history. I believe this.Its cool to be stupid now especially among young workers. They are trying to "out-stupid" each other. Just look at any docu-soap on telly about young proles on holiday or at the workplace. Total cretins. It's all a product of the concerted effort by our masters to radically dumb down the whole of society in the past 30 years. The proles are lapping it up. The dullard donkeys love being slaves. I detest them. Shoot me down if you like. I don't give a fuck.A Socialist Revolution? Never in a million years. It's about as likely as the 2nd coming. The masters will be in power forever…or at least until they blow the planet up to fuck or let it roast in an irriversable environmental catastrophe. "Humanity" is just a horrible virus polluting this Earth and Capitalism is its face. The planet will eventually get rid of us in its own way.
"Thinking would be a new experience for them". Couldn't have put it better myself. Stupid bastards. Honestly what chance do we have? This "civilisation" is fucked.
I agree. He or Yoko cannot have come to these conclusions without first having come into contact with SPGB literature. How could this be possible otherwise? Obviously there was no Internet in those days and I believe there was a reprint of QOTD in 1969 or thereabouts. Can you imagine what a boon it would be if somehow this was rumour was corroborated. What a perfect calling card for introduction to the Capitalist Yoko Ono. "Dear Ms Ono. Remember us? We wrote the pamphlet which might have influenced one of the greatest songs ever written". Preposterous idea…or is it?
Years ago I'm sure I heard a party member say that Lennon got hold of a copy of "Questions of the Day" and this was the inspiration for "Imagine". Is this complete shite?
I once bought a couple of numbers of "World Revolution" when I was a student in London. I thought I looked kind of cool reading them on the Victoria line. That was about it. I wrote to Vic Vanni in Glasgow at the time asking his opinion of them. Like me he wasn't impressed. Vic soon exposed them in his written reply to me. Why do these people over-complicate things and get themselves tied up in stupid knots?
Imagine trying to talk to these cunts about a moneyless society. Forget religion, this is the greatest obstacle facing Socialists. How to convince trained murderers to join us.
Yes I'm a prole too. We all are. I just find it difficult to conceal my hatred. I know I'm not the only ex member (or member for that matter) who harbours a secret loathing of our class. At least I admit it. Growing up all I heard was utter contempt and loathing from party members towards the working class. Sneering and patronising was the order of the day at branch meetings and public meetings. It was relentless. These guys hated their fellow proles and very often each other. It's the old ego that gets in the way with us humans.Supercilious members would cast themselves as natural leaders at branch meetings whilst the passive ones would sit at the back saying little or nothing. In social situations members would be so used to congregating amongst other party members that mere dullards outside of the SPGB would all be regarded in the same way…as fuckin idiots. Unenlightened women were regarded even more poorly than their male counterparts. I don't blame any of these members for such attitudes. A few of them ended up in hospital after having been physically attacked by workers who presumably were themselves on the receiving end of some arrogant lecture about the party case. Don't pretend you don't know what I'm talking about.This is why I'll never rejoin the party…partly because I detest workers and partly because of the chauvinism and arrogance I've witnessed. Why do I even bother checking into this forum every day? I guess because the WSM bug got me early on in my life. Many a time I've wished I was just like the vast majority of my fellow proles out there…totally ignorant and unknowing. Seeing life through the SPGB lens is a strange kind of curse which can result in utter frustration at the mass stupidity of workers everywhere. This frustration sometimes manifests itself as hatred. It's a bit of a mindfuckness because whilst 99% of me feels that (even though I hate the cunt) Lenin might have got at least one thing right when he spoke about workers only ever being able to achieve "trades unions-consciousness", there is still 1% of me that holds a wee peep of hope. The fact is today many workers cannot even achieve "Trades Unions Consciousness" never mind class consciousness. On the subject of Trades Unions I've heard people I work with say shit like "I hated Thatcher, but at least she was tough on the Unions" or "This Welfare State situation is really getting out of hand. We'll have to cut it back". Etc etc. Tough anti union/welfare policies are vote winners now. Stupid bastards. The same kind of stupid bastards who were pontificating what they thought the "Fissical Policy" was all about at the beginning of Noonan's classic novel. As far as I'm concerned a peaceful transition to a global socialist society in anyone's lifetime is about as likely as a miracle like an alien visitation happening. I just have serious doubts that workers from every country on earth can pole vault their minds and successfully negotiate such a Herculean task without the planet plunging into self destruct. The 1% flicker of hope is what brings me onto this forum day after day. Its like an oasis of calm and reason for me in a world of cretins. Don't be angry with me please. Rather pity me.
I enjoyed both the first Hunger Games movie and also the recent "Elysium" film. I love Sci Fi anyway. Obviously these films don't go far enough for us as Socialists but what I did like was that I had never really seen the Capitalist Class portrayed like that before. Sutherland is right about the youth, they are thick as shit like the vast majority of the proles but imagine what might happen when they begin to realise that they could become part of the greatest Sci Fact fantasy of all time when it's time up for Capitalism. Such an adventure would be a greater thrill than any movie or video game ever made because it will be tangible and real with all of humanity playing their part. It will either end up in Socialism or global nuclear war. I just think it will be a supremely dangerous time for our species.
Absolutely fuckin brilliant riposte to the "Human Nature" argument. Had never thought of it that way before. Priceless ammunition which I have cut and pasted into my notes section of my phone.
I guess it's this kind of debating style which puts workers off the SPGB. Talking down to workers like they are fucking idiots. The problem is its frustrating because most workers are idiots and its easy to talk down to them. Even the concept of "Teaching the Workers" sounds high handed but then again they need to be taught. However workers hate being preached to. What a fuckin trap we are in.
I applied online. You have to state what you intend to talk about. In the box I foolishly put "Capitalism" and "Socialism" thus probably barring me from ever being able to sit in the audience. What a dork I am! I'll never get on it now. Just shows you how inherently undemocratic this BBC game show is when they filter audiences watching the contestants who flank Dimbleby every week. What I would love to point out to the rest of the audience (if I ever actually managed to get on) is that the layout of seating in the room mirrors the class system within Capitalism. The vast passive majority sitting in the audience and the agents of the owning class (as well as some grandees who are actually Capitalists) sitting on the panel and pontificating.
