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Yes. It means those who reproduce themselves.
It only means the working class today, in the context of capitalism.————————————————————————————————-
The concept applies to any human being who must sell his/her labor power to survive. The law ofvalue marginally existed in pre capitalist society
Japan is becoming a society of elderly people but most of them are proletariat . China is controlling the birth rate
If you want to revise everything it is up to you I do not want to become a Bernstenian
Many secular atheists are as reactionary as the people that they reject; some want the death of religious leaders and churchgoers.
I do not think that it is correct, is the same case as the leftwingers who call poor fascists to the workers who do not vote for them and want them to be killed, or the assassination of political leaders.
Workers are not rightwingers or leftwingers; there is discontent around the whole world, but people do not know how to resolve their own problems
You have your point of view, and I have mine. I rest my case.
I do not care if they existed or did not exist; the point is why mankind created religion, and it was a very progressive idea at that time, because it was the only way to explain their own world.
I will not despise the churchgoers like most atheists do because they are human beings and they are members of the working class, and intellectuals are wage slaves too, like anybody else in this society
Paul did exist; she is wrong. The real historical fact is that he did not write most of his letters; he used a secretary or followers because he was sick. He is one of the few historical figures of the bible that did exist; he discriminated against women because it was the prevailing idea of that time in a society based on slavery.
The other fact is that he contradicts everything that was laid down by the primitive Christians, which was a working-class movement, and he lied about his encounter with Jesus because he never existed, and he never had a meeting with Jesus apostles because they did not exist either. He travelled to Rome because he was a Roman citizen, and he was not a jew; he was born in Syria, and he was a proselyte.
Most of the so-called historical figures of the Bible did not exist; Paul and David did exist. The Jewish Torah was written by different peoples; it was not written by Moses, who did not exist. There is no historical evidence in Egyptian history, and the Egyptians kept records of everything; it was a very advanced society.y
Genesis is an anti-scientific book, and the Exodus never took place; without that, everything else falls apart, including the promised land and the holy land, and the Ten Commandments were not given to Moses, and the so-called god never wrote them; they are backward laws written in a backward time where slavery was the prevailing mode of production, and many of those clauses existed within the Egyptian society, and the psalms were copied from the egyptian socciety.
I stick my gun to Frederick Engels and Karl Kausty, who wrote from the point of view of the Materialist conception of history. Most secular atheists are wrong; religion was created by human beings to explain their own world, and it was the only one to do that. In a socialist society, we are going to be able to see the real origin of religion, without any myth.
https://www.marxists.org/archive/keracher/1929/how-gods-made.htm.This is a very good explanation of the origin of gods, religion and prophets and how religion has been attached to a mode of production. It is based on the materialist conception of history. The SPGB pamphlet is perfect, and the preface written by Adam Buick is perfect too. T
The main thing is not whether a historical figure existed or did not exist; the question is why mankind created religion, and what was the mode of production that existed at that time.
The Indians believed in the spirit, but it was a society based on common possession and based on natural production, and Engels, Marx and Morgan described it pretty well, and the ethnological notebooks of Marx are good too
If you can read in Spanish or can use a digital translator, these people have debunked Paul completely, as well as the catholic church and the popes:
https://www.facebook.com/ateismoparacristianos/?locale=es_LA
For them, Paul suffered from epilepsy and syphilis, and he used hashish or opium to treat his diseases, and both produce hallucinations and addictions.
Another point is that the New Testament is backward; the letters of Paul should have been published first, because he never met Jesus ( and Jesus never existed). He created that lie, and the New Testament appeared later after Paul’s letters; he never met any of the apostles ( and they never existed ); therefore, he was just a liar.
He used the word bishops, but the bishops did not exist during the primitive Christians, which was like a working-class movement, and the primitive Christians existed before the New Testament.
The so-called writers of the Gospel never existed; the whole Bible, including the Torah, is based on false narratives, and Moses never wrote the Torah either; it was written by different individuals at different times
The early catholic church did not have a pope ( or father); they had a council of elders. Some historians considered that Linus was the first pope, and the primitive Christians had deacons, including women or deaconesses
I know that it never happened
The bible has too many anti-scientific myths, like Joshua stopping the rotation of the Earth or the sun, which would have been catastrophic. The Bible does not say that the Earth is a globe; it was flat for them, and it was an idea copied from other civilisations
The Roman Empire used crucifixion against its political opponents, and they were exposed to the public for several days until their lower extremities were fractured and people died from asphyxiation.
Jesus did not fulfil the so-called prophecies, as he stayed only a few hours on the cross and a few hours in the grave.
During that time, many people believed in reincarnation, and only the Pharisees believed in the resurrection.
According to the narratives, women were the first witnesses of his resurrection, and they were not included as apostles; most men ran away
There are many neighbourhood clubs which are not based on a profit motive. Softball is not as popular as baseball, but it is also a club sport without any profit motive. Baseball used to be a family and neighbourhood gathering sport, for chatting, and having some drinks and transmitted by AM Radio, and peoples seating in the sidewalks to listen to the broadcast
And yet mainstream academia, and even atheists, insist Jesus was a real person, with deniers called “a fringe.”
—————————————————–Most atheists do not know the real origin of religions; they do not know that it was a progressive creation of mankind to explain nature, life and society; it was not created to kill human beings and to conquer.
Jesus did not create any religion; Jesus was glorified by the writers of the New Testament ( Greek scriptures ) who did not exist. According to the narrative, he opposed the Roman Empire oligarchs and the religious leaders of his time; it is also the conclusion made by some followers of the so-called liberation theology ( wrongly called a Marxist tendency ) founded by Gustavo Gutierrez.
I have read his books, and he was not a Marxist; he influenced the Argentine priests who worked in the poor neighbourhoods and were killed when Francisco was the bishop of Buenos Aires, but they were not Marxist either
Human beings did not have physics, scientific medicine, biology and anthropology to explain the world; therefore, it was the only solution for them.
The concept of the devil was taken by the jews from the Persians, and the serpent was an Egyptian god.
If Moses existed, he was an African Egyptian, a gentile, and there are many blacks Africans who are jews too.
The whole bible is a spider web created by human beings’ imagination, as well as all the other so-called sacred books
