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ParticipantMany news outlets are reporting critical comments from the Chinese about Putin and the Russian conduct of the war. Seems like True Narcissist’s “anti imperialist coalition” of Russia and China is coming apart a little as the Chinese state and Biden start to cosying up to each other (all in the best interests of profit).
Obviously as TN will no doubt confirm, it’s all fake news and inspired by the CIA, etc. etc. etc.
Good job we have TN to keep us informed about the true course of Socialist progress, otherwise we might start to think that the Chinese “Communist” Party was an elite grouping who were only interested in the accumulation of capital and the exploitation of surplus value.
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ParticipantYou’re spot on TM, it’s the same thing in many ways. With the conspiraloons they have “more insight” and “special knowledge” which sets them apart from the rest of the world.
If you look at the similarities in behaviour between True Narcissist and Donald Trump, they are striking.
Anything that doesn’t support their view of the world is “fake news”, people who disagree with them are devalued by comparing them to people they consider to be of low social value, hence using terms like “retarded” as a form of insult. Promoting the fact that they have special insight that no others have. One of the most noticeable similarities is changing someone’s name into an insult. Trump has begun calling Ron DeSantos, Ron Desanctimonious. Remind anyone of someone?
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ParticipantTrue Narcissist – “Bojo’s Brain, back to the pages of Tween Vogue are we? While you’re at it, what’s my
Horoscope have to say today? I’m an Aquarium. Lol”True Narcissist – “Hehe, thank you Lizzie but it was a joke. When at a circus it’s hard not to act the clown.”
I quote directly from my last posting –
“The person with NPD will flatly deny having any of the identified personality traits, dismiss and challenge the concept of NPD and call the whole process a waste of time, whilst reiterating the “special” nature of their personality.”Sadly TN, you are so predictable.
The following guidance on treating people with NPD gives a little insight into the real self of people with this condition:
“No matter how obnoxiously narcissists behave, it’s important to remember that their self-aggrandizement almost always covers up painful longings for true connection, intimacy, and a sense that they’re “good enough.” In fact, rather than being purely entitled and spoiled, most narcissists are wounded, deprived, and avoidant, burdened with unattended loneliness and shame”
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ParticipantAlan, trying to attempt to argue with True Narcissist will always be like trying to mail jelly to the ceiling.
For example
TN- “Neither countries were or are imperialist so I reject the framing of your question.”The whole nature and presentation of Narcissistic Personality Disorder is based on denial of intrapersonal reality.
TN cannot accept the possibility of anything he says or asserts being incorrect, because if he does accept that he is not all powerful and all correct the whole intrapersonal edifice of his personality schema, in effect his whole ego system collapses.
Therefore, any fact, statistic or information, which contradicts his world is simply denied. ((Denial is the strongest “ego defence mechanism” available)
People with NPD often associate themselves with organisations and collectives that project power.
This reinforces their belief system which is built on their self perception of their own “specialness”.
In most cases the narcissists, often elaborately and ostentatiously demonstrate their “specialness” by showing to all that they support or are part of organisations that appear to be successful and through this the narcissist feels ego support for their internal view of their own high status and “specialness”
A manifestation of this might be by letting everyone know they support a highly successful sports team (I have come across individuals with NPD that have changed the sports team they support to a more successful team and then deny that they ever supported the original team!)
For True Narcissist, he has clearly associated himself with the Chinese Communist Party and other associated movements (Stalinism, Pol Pot, Putin, etc.). The inconsistency between the positions he supports (for example the Sino Soviet dispute) will be papered over by the usual Denial defence mechanism. (It didn’t happen, it is a CIA plot, the person who pointed out the fact is “smooth brained”, etc.)
The fact that the military machine that TN has hitched his wagon to (Putin’s Army) is turning out to be less powerful than predicted, will also also be denied and furthermore he will conjure up in his imagination an even more dreadful and all consuming demonstration of the powerfulness of his ally, Putin’s army (and by association himself) and in his fantasy world, all will tremble at the feet of Putin (i.e. his fantasy self)
The presentation of people with NDP is sometimes described as “Wizard of Oz Syndrome”. In the story the Wizard presents as being the all powerful and terrible ruler of the Kingdom of Oz, however in reality the “wizard” is a frightened little man hiding behind his screen of tricks and loud microphone.
The link below is quite an interesting exposition of the syndrome
Of course TN will respond by denial, dismissal of the existence of NPD (“it’s all psychobabble”), vicious attacks on anyone who has identified him as having NPD, denial of that person’s expertise, name calling, etc. (we have already experienced these traits). In a sense this reinforces the diagnosis.
Interestingly, when diagnosing a person as having NPD one of the first thing that is done is to explain to the person what NPD is and what the characteristics are.
As we all have at least a small number of these traits, a person who has not got NPD will recognise some of the traits and acknowledge these traits, whilst also recognising the areas where they don’t fit in with the diagnostic criteria.
The person with NPD will flatly deny having any of the identified personality traits, dismiss and challenge the concept of NPD and call the whole process a waste of time, whilst reiterating the “special” nature of their personality.
The genesis of NPD is often early ego trauma and negligent or neglectful parenting, or conversely being parented in a highly indulgent way, never challenging the child over their behaviour or opinions.
So in a long winded way, I am saying that attempting to try undertake rational discussion with TN is pissing into the wind.
We do need to challenge the irrational nonsense he puts out, but we will not get any further.
On the plus side, if TN is spending his time churning up his usual self inflated rubbish, at least his family and friends (if he’s got any) are probably getting a well deserved break, so in that sense we are undertaking a socially useful activity.
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ParticipantTS “Actually, it’s a very commonly held view, just not by Guardian Brahs.”
The only people who believe that are you and Putin’s Granny
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Participant“And remind me how losing WW2 influenced even more Germans into embracing Nazi ideology? Oh that’s right, it didn’t.”
And WW2 was settled by the Nazis being forced into Unconditional Surrender, that looks highly unlikely in the Ukraine – Russia war (apart that is from your “call of duty” based fantasy world)
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ParticipantAnother interesting research finding:
https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/10463283.2016.1252530Bijou Drains
ParticipantTS “ The conflict is justified. Fighting Nazis is always the right thing to do. It is something Russians don’t shy away from given that they killed 8 out of 10 Nazis during WW2.”
And presumably the Molotov Von Ribbentrop Pact was all about fighting Nazis. As was the export of massive amounts of raw materials to the Nazi regime was a way of weakening the Nazi regime.
Funny that Harry Pollit (after changing his line to fall in line with Stalin’s directives) and his CPGB propaganda sheet, The Daily Worker said that “fighting against the Nazis was playing into the hands of the class enemy”
You don’t need to worry about the authenticity of that, we have copies of it in our archive.
The CPGB also put forward the Stalin line that “a defeat of Britain by the Nazis would be in the interests of the British Working Classes”
It is a proven fact that your hero Stalin did not agree with your view that “fighting Nazis is ALWAYS the right thing to do”.
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ParticipantAJ – “ All others here don’t give a damn about which side is victorious.”
TS – “Which means you don’t care if Nazis win. Well, thankfully, most sane people in the world don’t share your view”
The irony is that TS uses the True Scotsman fallacy without even knowing he’s using it. 😂😂😂
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ParticipantBD – “I don’t think the DSM-5 is often used as a basis for fashion magazine articles.
But the arrogant dismissal of other’s concerns IS another common symptom, you might want to read up on it.”
“TS – Come on, it was either Tween Vogue or Girls’ Life. Which was it?”
DSM-5 is The Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders, Fifth Edition (DSM-5). It is the 2013 update to the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders, the taxonomic and diagnostic tool published by the American Psychiatric Association (APA). It is generally regarded as the principal authority for psychiatric diagnoses. Treatment recommendations, are often determined by DSM classifications. The DSM-5 is the only DSM to use an Arabic numeral instead of a Roman numeral in its title, as well as the only living document version of a DSM.
The reference DSM-5 301.81 (F60.81) NPD, might be particularly interesting for you to read.
Strangely, however, it doesn’t have a diagnostic tool to help us identify clowns, although generally the clowns do a pretty good job of making themselves fairly obvious to spot.
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Participant“MODERATOR NOTICE
BIJOU DRAIN, I deleted a post from you that I felt was unnecessarily insulting”
Fair play, ref.
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ParticipantTS – “Lol, where’d you learn psychology, in a tween fashion magazine?”
I don’t think the DSM-5 is often used as a basis for fashion magazine articles.
But the arrogant dismissal of other’s concerns IS another common symptom, you might want to read up on it.
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ParticipantWez,
The basic rule with regards to TS is that if the citation supports him it is authentic, unbiased and correct, if it does’nt support him it is biased, written by the CIA, inauthentic and right wing.
I think that says more about TS’s psyche than it does about politics:
I think he has at least 5 of the following characteristics:
Has a grandiose sense of self-importance
Is preoccupied with fantasies of success, power, brilliance, beauty, or perfect love.
Believes that they are “special” and can only be understood by or should only associate with other special people (or institutions).
Requires excessive admiration.
Has a sense of entitlement, such as an unreasonable expectation of favoorable treatment or compliance with his or her expectations).
Is exploitative and takes advantage of others to achieve their own ends.
Lacks empathy and is unwilling to identify with the needs of others.
Is often envious of others or believes that others are envious of them.
Shows arrogant, haughty behaviours and attitudes
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ParticipantWould be nice if the “Money Saving Expert” Martin Lewis advised people to join and be active in their trades union!!
Let’s face it getting a a 15% pay rise is better that getting £10 back from your bank for changing accounts!
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