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KeymasterBut that was weeks ago. Has this got something to do with current events in Georgia where the crowds seem to be English supporters?
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KeymasterWe know that but do the Scots Nats? I imagine Alba, the name of Alex Salmond’s breakaway party, is also based on a myth or at least a misrepresentation.
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KeymasterDon’t forget Offa’s Dyke built by English colonists.
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KeymasterThat’s a good point. I think I’ll send a letter to the Weekly Worker pointing this out, but in relation to TUSC rather than the CPB.
Meanwhile here is TUSC’s own take on how they did generally:
‘Best campaign since relaunch’, says TUSC results draft report
Interesting that “nearly a fifth of the candidates not members of any political party or group within the coalition.” That will mean that they will not be dyed-in-the-wool Leninists out to manipulate workers into following them as a vanguard by dangling “transitional demands” in front of them. Probably they will be ordinary trade union militants justifiably pissed off with the Labour Party.
I dare say that could be the case of some of the new members of SPRW itself. Our members who attended the SPEW meeting in Vauxhall on “Reform and Revolution” during the campaign reported that they were not allowed to give leaflet to all of the 8 present but were told that one would be sufficient. We left 2. Clearly, the leader of the meeting didn’t want the ordinary members there from investigating further what we have to say.
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KeymasterHere is the Weekly Worker’s take on the London elections:
“ London Assembly
The London Assembly is elected by a complex combination of a party list system plus constituency candidates. The Morning Star’s Communist Party of Britain stood in the party list element, while candidates from the Socialist Party of Great Britain and Tusc stood in constituencies. The party list element was headed by Labour (38.4%), followed by the Tories (26.2%), Greens (11.6%), Lib Dems (8.7%) and Reform UK (5.9%). The CPB ranked 13th at 0.4% (10,915 votes) – an improvement on last time, when it obtained 0.3%.
Among the constituency candidates, Labour took 10 seats, the Tories three and the Lib Dems one, with the Tories taking the ‘white flight’ areas of outer east London and the Lib Dems the outer south west, reflecting the Tory decline in Surrey. Outside the one seat the Lib Dems won, the Greens tended, though not invariably, to outpoll them. On the left, the two SPGB candidates both came in last, with just one percent of the vote.
Among the Tusc candidates, in City and East Lois Austin came in 7th (after an independent) with 4,710 (2%); April Jacqueline Ashley in Croydon and Sutton was 6th with 2,766 (0.7%); Andy Walker in Havering & Redbridge was 7th with 2,145 (1.3%); and Nancy Taaffe in North East was 6th with 5,595 (2.7%). These results show Tusc polling in the same range as the SPGB, though ahead of the CPB.”https://weeklyworker.co.uk/worker/1490/local-election-barometer/
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KeymasterAnathema = “something or someone that one vehemently dislikes”.
I don’t think the election results show that “the overwhelming majority” vehemently dislike socialism as a word let alone as properly understood.
Opinion polls show that an increasing number of people, particularly younger people, don’t mind the word “socialism”. Of course there are some people who have suffered under some state-capitalist dictatorship calling itself socialist who do hate the word (we met a couple in the course of our campaign).
When socialism, as a society of common ownership and democratic control with production to directly satisfy people’s needs not profit, is presented to people they don’t dislike it but don’t think that it is practicable. Which is not at all the same thing.
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KeymasterMore psephology. There was only one other group using the word “socialist” standing in the GLA elections — TUSC, the front organisation of the spurious socialist but actually state-capitalist organisation that calls itself SPEW.
They stood in 4 geographical constituencies like the 2 we stood in. Here is how they did:
North East: 5595 2.7%
City and East: 4710 2.6%
Croydon & Sutton: 2766 1.6%
Havering & Redbridge: 2145 1.2%The same league as us even if higher up the table despite offering attractive sounding reforms in the hope of garnering votes. A minor reformist party that can’t compete with the bigger ones when it comes to that.
Their task is as difficult as ours but at least ours — socialism — is worth campaigning for.
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KeymasterYes, that’s a good article (but you didn’t say it was going to be a “long read”!). I agree that blaming “neo-liberalism” for the growth of conspiracy fictions is a weak part. After all, Jewish conspiracy fictions pre-date that by a long way and were around under state capitalism let alone Keynesianism.
Anyway, neo-liberalism seems to be on the way out as the main capitalist ideology, especially as concerns international trade with the leading capitalist states imposing sanctions on rivals ostensibly for political reasons. Even internally, the trend is towards state support for selected private capitalist enterprises in the form of contracts and subsidies — the sort of “crony capitalism” that the Labour Party is proclaiming from the rooftops it is aiming to practise when it takes over later this year.
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KeymasterLooks like not many voters followed Ed Griffiths’s advice (which we didn’t endorse) and voted for us in the constituencies and the Communist Party for the party list vote:
In Barnet & Camden the CPB list got 719 votes and in Lambeth & Southwark 945.
I met the Reform UK candidate, Tony Sharp, at the count and he described the CPB as tankies. I suppose most of them would have been. Apparently he was once the deputy leader of UKIP.
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KeymasterYes, this is the 4th time we have contested Lambeth & Southwark GLA constituency.
Previous results were:
2008 1588 1.0%
2012 2938 1.9%
2016 1333 0.7%
2024 2082 1.2%-
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KeymasterResult for Lambeth & Southwark just declared:
LAB 84768
GRN 35144
LD. 22030
CON 21121
RFM 8942
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KeymasterToday they verified the number of votes cast. Tomorrow they will count the number cast for each candidate.
Here are the figures for Barnet and Camden. They give the size of the electorate (413,809) and the number of voters (163,657). So, turnout here of just under 40%.
The figures for Lambeth & Southwark are 448,552 and 175,428, a turnout of just over 39%.
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KeymasterDon’t know if that is the real reason but that’s how it will be seen :
https://labourlist.org/2024/05/local-elections-results-2024-council-2/?amp
Serves them right.
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KeymasterI see even you draw a distinction between “fascist” and “fascistic” !
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