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KeymasterI think it might be clearer if "quantitative easing" was called by its other name of "asset purchase programme" as that brings out more clearly what it is: the purchase of assets (mainly government bonds) from (mainly) banks by the Central Bank as a way of converting a part of banks' assets into a form that they can more easily spent. Whether they actually do spend any more than they otherwise would is of course another matter.
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KeymasterAccording to an article on Syriza I read in French, the Financial Times described Syriza's election victory as a "vote insurrectionnel", an "insurrectionary vote". On the surface this sounds like an oxymoron but, if you think about it, it's what the socialist election victory could be described as (and more correctly than Syriza's). I wonder whether we shouldn't start using the term. But I've not been able to find the actual reference in the Financial Times.Maybe this should have been posted on the thread about "Is This How Capitalist Rule Will End?"
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KeymasterAlsoMonday 16 March 7pm. Hall of Wesley Memorial Church, New Hall Street, Oxford (centre)Wednesday 15 April 6pm. Student Union Hall, Oxford Brookes University, Gipsy Lane Campus.More details nearer the time.Other news from Oxford is that TUSC will be standing in Oxford East.
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KeymasterOne of the reasons he left the Party was over the use of the traditional language of socialism, capitalism, working class, etc. After he left he wrote and published a pamphlet called A World of Free Access which set out the case for socialism without using such words. Actually, it's quite a good exposition of the case for socialism or "a world of free access" as he called it. The text can be found here (scroll down a bit):http://www.revleft.com/vb/group.php?do=discuss&group=&discussionid=7047After that he went completely off the rails politically.
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KeymasterHere's a good speech on the subject which makes all the good points against "No Platform" which apparently is quite widespread in universities these days:http://www.spiked-online.com/freespeechnow/fsn_article/no-to-no-platform-in-defence-of-unpopular-ideas#.VNyAJCwoFqA
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KeymasterThanks, Brian, that's an important document that we need to make sure all our candidates and election agents have:http://www.electoralcommission.org.uk/__data/assets/pdf_file/0010/169480/sp-hustings-npc-ukpge.pdfIt is a considerable improvement on past advice the Electoral Commission have given. There is still a let-out clause but hustings organisers will need to be careful if they try to exclude us as we will force them to show that they were being impartial:
Quote:To show your hustings is non – selective you should : • be able to give impartial reasons why you have not invited particular candidates or parties. Y ou should be prepared to explain your reasons to candidates or parties you haven’t invited • make sure that candidates or parties you invite represent a reasonable variety of view, from different parts of the political spectrum • allow each candidate or party representative attending a fair chance to answer questions and, where appropriate, a reasonable opportunity to respond to points made against them by other candidates or party representative • inform the audience at the meeting of candidates or parties stan ding who haven’t been invited. Impartial reasons may emerge from the following considerations: • local prominence of some parties or candidates over others • the number of elected representatives at the local or national level • recent election results in the area • resources and other practicalities constraining numbers of invitees • security concerns Impartial reasons do not include reasons such as your views on the policies of a candidate or party.ALB
KeymasterMark Chapman, of the Pirate Party, a minor reformist party, is also standing in Vauxhall:https://london.pirateparty.org.uk/2014/09/30/mark-chapman-selected-as-ge2015-candidate-for-vauxhall/Why do they just want open access to the internet and not to the other things in life?
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KeymasterThat could well be what the Islamists wants as it will bring them more recruits, just as the Zionists are not so opposed to anti-semitism as it brings them more recruits (emigrants to Israel).
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KeymasterMaybe because there will be no "workers" in socialism as all classes, including the working class, will have been abolished.
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KeymasterGo back to the other thread and discuss it there with the non-exhausted.
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KeymasterLBird wrote:For you ALB, who determines the 'not on everything'?Socialist society obviously, as part of its founding "constitution" (as it were). In other words, the majority who democratically establish socialism democratically decide that an essential part of the society they want to live in is that the minority has its say, i.e that minority opinions are protected from being suppressed by a majority decision. I've offered you this way out of your dilemma, which doesn't involve invoking abstract indivual rights, but you've rejected it.
LBird wrote:Blathering on about 'free association' for individuals doesn't cut the political mustard, I'm afraid.Tell that to Marx who used to blather on about post-capitalist society being an association. For instance, "an association which will exclude classes and their antagonism" (Poverty of Philosophy), "an association, in which the free development of each is the condition for the free development of all" (Communist Manifest) and "an association of free men, working with the means of production held in common" (from the section on the "Fetishism of Commodities" in Capital).
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KeymasterI think the issue between LBird and the rest of us is now clear: he calls himself a "Democratic Communist" but does not accept the normal definition of democracy which, basically, is that "the minority has its say and the majority has its way". He only accepts the last part and holds that the majority can have its way even to the extent of not allowing the minority, or minorities, to have their say. ( He goes further than this in fact and says that the majority can and should also decide what is scientifically true or not, but that's another argument which I think we've exhausted on other threads though of course, as a minority, he still has a right to his say.)I'm not sure what to call this truncated theory of democracy. The word "totalitarian" comes to mind but "totalitarian democracy" seems a contradiction in terms. All I can think of for what he's advocating is "the dictatorship of the majority". The trouble is, though, that democracy does involve the majority having its way ("dictating", if you like) but not on everything, not in particular on what people can think and say.Can anybody think of a better term?
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KeymasterOur candidates in Oxford have already received a further two invitations to speak at meetings, one on 16 March, the other in April, as well as an invitation to contribute 200-250 words to a rural magazine.Who says contesting elections is a waste of time and money?
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KeymasterLBird wrote:Well, under capitalism, slavery, eugenics, beating wives, breeding low IQ humans for hunting, torturing animals, etc., etc.I can agree that doing these things should be banned but not why advocating them should be. There is not much danger in that as they are not likely to get any degree of support for putting them into practice and can easily be refuted. You don't think that there are likely to be people who would be "corrupted" by hearing such outlandish views and so need to be protected from this, do you? If not, what is the case for banning their expression?
LBird wrote:Under socialism/communism, private property, wage labour, propagating nationalism…Once again, these are all undesirable but I don't see any need to prevent people from advocating them if they want. Nobody's going to listen to them anyway. In fact I doubt if anyone is going to want to advocate them. I think you've been reduced to scraping the bottom of the barrell Seriously, why should we seek to prevent people advocating a return to capitalism? Why can't they still have their say while the socialist majority has its way?
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KeymasterLBird wrote:Simply, all societies find something to be 'beyond the pale', and I'm sure that we can find things now that we'd prevent being published, and I think Communism will be no different.I can't think of any view on how society should be organised or on what policies to adopt that should be banned under capitalism let alone in socialist/communist society. Maybe you can. If so, I'd be interested.
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