Charlie Hebdo Attacked in Paris

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  • #107593
    ALB
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    Just realised that in French "Je suis Charlie" means both "I am Charlie" and "I follow Charlie". Don't know if that has any significance.

    #107594
    Anonymous
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    ALB wrote:
    Just realised that in French "Je suis Charlie" means both "I am Charlie" and "I follow Charlie". Don't know if that has any significance.

    Could it mean 'I am a Charlie'  

    #107595
    alanjjohnstone
    Keymaster

    The ememy within?Troops on the streets of Belgium, and once again synagogues are singled out for defence. In the UK extra security at potental Jewish targets. Is this really to assure the community? Or will it merely increase the paranoia? A Standard article i recall said the justification of Israel was it was a safe haven from ant-semiticism but reality its creation and existence has been the major cause of that anti-semiticism. Its been pointed out that Charlie Hebdo magazine is now no longer a critical satire magazine but its incredibly increased circulation has been financed partly by the French government and by the establishment media corporations like Google.I note Hollande calls for the burning of the French Tricolour to be punishable in his defence of free speech.Each day all my earlier concerns are being confirmed.A Morroccan stabbed to death in a retaliatory attack in France…his assailant shouting "i am your god , i am your islam" He isn't a terrorist…but schizophrenic. But what if he had been Muslim and his victim Jewish? His religion would be the headline, not his mental health state. As for incitement …who was financing and giving ISIS a respectable face…. Who was the cheer-leaders for terrorism in Syria? Should we therefore be surprised by the rush of volunteers to go fight there?Someone on the htread said we should listen to what they say and indeed we have the actual recorded words of what Coulibay said as he held people hostage in the supermarket..the only religious justification offered was an eye for an eye…a belief common tochristians, jews and muslims, but more importantly he said, “I was born in France. If they didn’t attack other countries, I wouldn’t be here”. The Charles Hebro killers in their earlier court appearances didn't quote religion as motive but Iraq and Abu Graib. The Islamic teacher they followed actually condemned 9/11 and it was only the aftermath of 2003 that he declared jihad. Politics not theology is the cause of this terrorism yet it is still discussed as religious terms. So is it no wonder when the blame is placed on a particular religion  there is a religious backlash from  christian, jewish and muslims across the world. Socialists explain why the French and others are in wars, the media and the governments lie about that. That is our role. To keep giving the material economic-related cause of wars, and exposing the ideological camoflage that they are waged under. What to do about it is not to mirror the state violence but to abolish it. That is our message. But it is not being heard by that many. And even if we did have a press release, no coverage of it would be given, and it be ignored like all the repudiation statements of practically every islamic committee and community.  Sad, ain't it? But what can we do but do what we do. 

    #107596
    alanjjohnstone
    Keymaster

    i note the militant Christian fundamentalist terrorist  leader has been sent to the Hague for trial…oh,…The Lords Resistance Army on the BBC's lead story isn't described in religious terms. In fact , out of 4 stories on the webpage about he LRA, there is only one mention of religion in relation to it .."the rebel group commanded by Kony, who claims to be fighting to install a government in Uganda based on the Biblical 10 Commandments"…http://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-30906019Now…if it had been a muslim MUSLIM Islamic..ISLAMIC…Caliphate…Muslim …MUSLIM  group, we'd all know about it, would't we?

    #107597
    ALB
    Keymaster

    Here's George Galloway saying "Je suis Mohammed" . After all, he needs their votes if he's not going to get booted out as MP for Bradford in May:http://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/george-galloway-condemns-racist-islamophobic-hypocritical-rag-charlie-hebdo-at-freedom-of-speech-rally-9990490.html?icn=puff-9

    #107598
    alanjjohnstone
    Keymaster
    #107599
    Darren redstar
    Participant

    There are reports in the papers of police seeking the names and addresses of people buying copies of Charlie Hedbo from newsagents.

    #107600
    SocialistPunk
    Participant

    Here's a link to the incident mentioned by Darren.http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2015/feb/09/wiltshire-police-apologise-details-charlie-hebdo-readersI don't expect any newsagents stock the Socialist Standard, but is it possible for newsagents to acquire it if someone put in a monthly order for it?Maybe one to watch for in the future.

    #107601
    alanjjohnstone
    Keymaster

    The backlash against muslims in Francehttp://www.spyghana.com/anti-muslim-racism-in-france-on-the-increase/

    #107602
    ALB
    Keymaster

    That could well be what the Islamists wants as it will bring them more recruits, just as the Zionists are not so opposed to anti-semitism as it brings them more recruits (emigrants to Israel).

    #107603
    alanjjohnstone
    Keymaster

    I wonder how many world politicians will link arms and declare they too are Charlie Hebdo for mocking the victims of the Russia aircraft bombing as just a bit of humourhttps://www.rt.com/news/321019-charlie-hebdo-cartoons-plane/The first cartoon shows parts of the aircraft and a passenger falling toward the ground, while an Islamic State militant, armed with a gun, ducks for cover to avoid the falling debris. Underneath the caricature is the caption: “Daesh: Russia’s aviation intensifies its bombardments.”The second showed a skull and a burned-out plane on the ground, with the caption: “The dangers of low-cost Russia. I should have taken Air Cocaine.” The authors were referring to two French pilots who fled the Dominican Republic to escape arrest for allegedly trying to transport 680 kilograms of the drug.Nor is the BBC immune from criticism since its TV show News Quiz thought the tragedy was worth a giggle or twoA lot of double standards wouldn't you say? 

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